Future Races for FFXIV

[Tupsi]

I will quote this post since it also include something i wanted to say, but actually reply to your first one.

Don't get me wrong, i would totally love something fresh, new and unique, but you know that the FF-Worlds are connected via Void? If you go by Lore they could basically have Zack go into Gold-Saucer, or Sephiroth go and destroy Al Migho. The Worlds are connected by lore, but out of a Design pov, yes it is "recycled" Design, but absolutely possible due the lore.

^. The FF worlds are all linked but they have their own storylines. They all take place in the same Universe but not necessarily same planet - So Hydal. Tecnically shouldn't have the Reapers (Dragon) from FFVI as a Magitek unit, how can two different worlds create the same exact Magitek model..? How can both encompass the same exact 'Weapon' (Ultima) design? It can't be a 'coincidence'..

This is why Race wise, it's a bit touchy if they add completely new Races because, what would it be? How would it be different than just adding in a race from Ivalice, Gria for example? That way they at least would still be sticking to the same universe like they already have been doing. Originality usually happens between each game through the systems and storyline, while you may find this bad..that's really what RPGs, FF in particular, are known for. ARR doesn't even have its own unique systems in terms of RPG or MMORPGs. So why not actually continue to make this a FF game and utilize races already present if they can make them fit?

Gria is the one race that can fit perfectly in this game.

[Nero]

^. The FF worlds are all linked but they have their own storylines. They all take place in the same Universe but not necessarily same planet - So Hydal. Tecnically shouldn't have the Reapers (Dragon) from FFVI as a Magitek unit, how can two different worlds create the same exact Magitek model..? How can both encompass the same exact 'Weapon' (Ultima) design? It can't be a 'coincidence'..

This goes way too much into the lore and out of my level of informations about it. xD May someone has a good explanation for that "coincidence"?

This is why Race wise, it's a bit touchy if they add completely new Races because, what would it be? How would it be different than just adding in a race from Ivalice, Gria for example? That way they at least would still be sticking to the same universe like they already have been doing. Originality usually happens between each game through the systems and storyline,

That's why i did mention Viera and/or Ronso. Ronso may be a little bit iffy to fit into the world, but i can totally see Viera with some little changes. If we look at a certain Gear-Concept from a while ago... idk.. i find it obvious, while other people said it is the gear changing the actual anatomy of the body.



To have an existing race fit into that... impossible. For all existing gear, it changes its size from race to face and does not fuck up the anatomy at all. This Set of Gear does.. or is it a simple tease ( since there is actually no face )? People tried to argue when SE first did show the artwork for the XIV cover and it did show a scholar, but was not confirmed.. as soon as i saw it i knew it was SCH.. people denied it SOOO HARD... but in the end i was right. We will know soon enough i guess.

while you may find this bad..that's really what RPGs, FF in particular, are known for. ARR doesn't even have its own unique systems in terms of RPG or MMORPGs. So why not actually continue to make this a FF game and utilize races already present if they can make them fit?

Gria is the one race that can fit perfectly in this game.

Gria would be awesome actually. I don't find it bad at all, did i give that impression, or was that directed at the person i've quoted? That is basically why i love the FF-Universe and why i would don't mind at all having i.e. Lightning appear in XIV.

[Tupsi]

Gria would be awesome actually. I don't find it bad at all, did i give that impression, or was that directed at the person i've quoted? That is basically why i love the FF-Universe and why i would don't mind at all having i.e. Lightning appear in XIV.

Nah was a generalized 'you.' Not you in particular.

[Roda]

That tail and those feet remind me of Blade and Soul's Lyn.

[Tannlore]

To have an existing race fit into that... impossible.

You.. do know.. that is the BLM PVP armor right? I mean.. in the actual full picture (one not cropped) this is clearly shown... right? Can't imagine a race fitting into that? Well try harder lol

All the Frontline armors are based on animals:

Pld: Lion
War: Bear
Blm: Fox
Sch: Reindeer
whm: Swan


Here for reference:


As for Viera? (From Producer Letter 5)
Q38: In terms of new races, what kind of races are you looking into and will mixed races be introduced?
A38: I don’t think we’ll have mixed races for a while. Since it seems like Viera is popular around the world we have been proactively looking into this, but since having a rabbit male might be kind of weird, maybe we’ll look into having a separate race for the male counterpart.

[Nero]

You.. do know.. that is the BLM PVP armor right? I mean.. in the actual full picture (one not cropped) this is clearly shown... right? Can't imagine a race fitting into that? Well try harder lol

That is exactly what i was talking about. But since you did post the other Sets, please check out the anatomic measurements of them. You can lay them above of each other and they 100% FIT, the only exception is the Fox-Set. There is also the MRD Set and the DRG Set, which is not on the pictures you have posted. Upper right is MNK "Hawk". But that is beside the actual Point.. the Problem is not the "Animal themed" Gear, its the anatomy of the Models SE used to present them.

You can check ALL the existing Concept Shots for Gear from FFXIV ARR and NONE of them have similiar measurements than the Fox-Gear, regardless of which Race SE was using. The Fox-Set is oustanding and totally out of Place if you go by the actual anatomic measurements of the current Races and No... none of the existing Gear does change your Shape/Form/Size.. also the other PvP sets also do not do that. No.. i am not talking about the fancy hat.. not at all <.<

The most obvious part are the heels.. let aside that those kind of models currently does not exist in FFXIV, they are simply not fitting the Female Races. You cant introduce heels like that without highly changing the animations for said Characters or it will look straight stupid, let aside that those "heels" seem to be the perfect Match for Viera feets..

[Tannlore]

That is exactly what i was talking about...

I think this is a case of wanting to see what isn't there.

Case in point: We have lalafell in the game yes? Find me armor concept that are drawn with the lalafell body in mind? You might find.. maybe one? But I don't remember seeing anything beyond the draft for the racial armor or concept for specific npc or the race itself. I don't think I've ever seen any armor concept like pvp/dungeon/etc drawn with that multi positional view for lalafell.

Why? It's disproportionate. It makes it quite difficult to make a universal mesh/texture for armor to fit on other races. They use these longer/taller bodies to get all the details in the concept to go to digital production. This is why the Crafting armor, AF armor, AF2 Armor, Dungeon armor, Pvp armor concepts are all done on what looks like either Midlander body types.

But let's take a closer look:



As you can see it all pretty much exactly lines up to the other caster armor. Is it a bit bulkier? in some places yes, but it also doesn't have the thick/poofier sections some of the other armors have. The one part is the feet. Those strange anthropomorphic looking feet! well here you go:



High heels without the stiletto added. This would also explain why the foot is longer on the blm than the sch one, it is walking on the front of the foot/toes.


I don't really see anything that screams confirmation on another race. Just an armor that was so masterfully done, it makes you think so. And isn't that the point of them? To convince you that you are that animal?