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    The fact that you can list a whole bunch of stuff they've reused already only emphasizes my point: To inject some originality into this game, they should develop new concepts for races when the time comes, something to distinguish Eorzea from the slew of other FF worlds.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    Even Blizzard reused things from the Warcraft universe for their MMORPG based on Warcraft.
    WoW and Warcraft take place in the same universe. Of course they would "reuse" things. >_>
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naunet View Post

    WoW and Warcraft take place in the same universe. Of course they would "reuse" things. >_>
    I will quote this post since it also include something i wanted to say, but actually reply to your first one.

    Don't get me wrong, i would totally love something fresh, new and unique, but you know that the FF-Worlds are connected via Void? If you go by Lore they could basically have Zack go into Gold-Saucer, or Sephiroth go and destroy Al Migho. The Worlds are connected by lore, but out of a Design pov, yes it is "recycled" Design, but absolutely possible due the lore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nero View Post
    I will quote this post since it also include something i wanted to say, but actually reply to your first one.

    Don't get me wrong, i would totally love something fresh, new and unique, but you know that the FF-Worlds are connected via Void? If you go by Lore they could basically have Zack go into Gold-Saucer, or Sephiroth go and destroy Al Migho. The Worlds are connected by lore, but out of a Design pov, yes it is "recycled" Design, but absolutely possible due the lore.
    ^. The FF worlds are all linked but they have their own storylines. They all take place in the same Universe but not necessarily same planet - So Hydal. Tecnically shouldn't have the Reapers (Dragon) from FFVI as a Magitek unit, how can two different worlds create the same exact Magitek model..? How can both encompass the same exact 'Weapon' (Ultima) design? It can't be a 'coincidence'..

    This is why Race wise, it's a bit touchy if they add completely new Races because, what would it be? How would it be different than just adding in a race from Ivalice, Gria for example? That way they at least would still be sticking to the same universe like they already have been doing. Originality usually happens between each game through the systems and storyline, while you may find this bad..that's really what RPGs, FF in particular, are known for. ARR doesn't even have its own unique systems in terms of RPG or MMORPGs. So why not actually continue to make this a FF game and utilize races already present if they can make them fit?

    Gria is the one race that can fit perfectly in this game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    ^. The FF worlds are all linked but they have their own storylines. They all take place in the same Universe but not necessarily same planet - So Hydal. Tecnically shouldn't have the Reapers (Dragon) from FFVI as a Magitek unit, how can two different worlds create the same exact Magitek model..? How can both encompass the same exact 'Weapon' (Ultima) design? It can't be a 'coincidence'..
    This goes way too much into the lore and out of my level of informations about it. xD May someone has a good explanation for that "coincidence"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    This is why Race wise, it's a bit touchy if they add completely new Races because, what would it be? How would it be different than just adding in a race from Ivalice, Gria for example? That way they at least would still be sticking to the same universe like they already have been doing. Originality usually happens between each game through the systems and storyline,
    That's why i did mention Viera and/or Ronso. Ronso may be a little bit iffy to fit into the world, but i can totally see Viera with some little changes. If we look at a certain Gear-Concept from a while ago... idk.. i find it obvious, while other people said it is the gear changing the actual anatomy of the body.



    To have an existing race fit into that... impossible. For all existing gear, it changes its size from race to face and does not fuck up the anatomy at all. This Set of Gear does.. or is it a simple tease ( since there is actually no face )? People tried to argue when SE first did show the artwork for the XIV cover and it did show a scholar, but was not confirmed.. as soon as i saw it i knew it was SCH.. people denied it SOOO HARD... but in the end i was right. We will know soon enough i guess.


    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    while you may find this bad..that's really what RPGs, FF in particular, are known for. ARR doesn't even have its own unique systems in terms of RPG or MMORPGs. So why not actually continue to make this a FF game and utilize races already present if they can make them fit?

    Gria is the one race that can fit perfectly in this game.
    Gria would be awesome actually. I don't find it bad at all, did i give that impression, or was that directed at the person i've quoted? That is basically why i love the FF-Universe and why i would don't mind at all having i.e. Lightning appear in XIV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nero View Post
    Gria would be awesome actually. I don't find it bad at all, did i give that impression, or was that directed at the person i've quoted? That is basically why i love the FF-Universe and why i would don't mind at all having i.e. Lightning appear in XIV.
    Nah was a generalized 'you.' Not you in particular.
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    That tail and those feet remind me of Blade and Soul's Lyn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nero View Post


    To have an existing race fit into that... impossible.
    You.. do know.. that is the BLM PVP armor right? I mean.. in the actual full picture (one not cropped) this is clearly shown... right? Can't imagine a race fitting into that? Well try harder lol

    All the Frontline armors are based on animals:

    Pld: Lion
    War: Bear
    Blm: Fox
    Sch: Reindeer
    whm: Swan


    Here for reference:


    As for Viera? (From Producer Letter 5)
    Q38: In terms of new races, what kind of races are you looking into and will mixed races be introduced?
    A38: I don’t think we’ll have mixed races for a while. Since it seems like Viera is popular around the world we have been proactively looking into this, but since having a rabbit male might be kind of weird, maybe we’ll look into having a separate race for the male counterpart.
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    I don't think anyone should get the ability to be a more powerful race, this isn't a game with huge racial stats, so it would just be really odd, seeing a Padjal Gladiator, when we all know they are just born from Humes with lots of magical aptitude and long life spans. I just don't see a reason to make the player a really powerful, not to mention politically important race. Padjal aren't only "a race with horns" they tend to rule over Gridania. Also the player isn't supposed to really "have a home" so to speak within one of the city-states, being a padjal says "i'm from gridania, born and raised" that's just anti the whole adventurer sentiment.


    Viera I wouldn't mind, but honestly...rather than a new race, I'd almost like the ability to be mixed race. Makes much more sense that we've been mixing it up, than we find a totally new race in the world, without them being some OP god race or something man made , meh, but then again I'm not sure if two races mate, if the kid just comes out looking like one race with minor genes from the other, i think that's how it is they always look like the mother, and get some genes from dad or something :/ bummer.
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    I'd like to see a bipedal Draconic race that Yoshi-P hinted at a long time ago.
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    One of these
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