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    Will Brannigan
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    Paladin Lv 80
    The difference between Silence/Stun and Pacification is that other classes can Stun and Silence. Until there's more classes have access to pacification I don't really see it being a thing on hard content. I don't mean to sound like I'm moving the goalposts, but there's nothing harder than Ifrit (Hard) that can be pacified right now (I guess you could say Bone Dragon is harder, kind of maybe). If, say, Twintania could be pacified and prevent Death Sentence and plummet it'd be great for Shield Swipe, but it'd also mean that you're basically required to bring a paladin.

    They could take the blocking requirement off of Shield Swipe and add pacification to another class (Rain of Death and One Ilm Punch are kind of crappy) and make more content that's pacify-enabled - that'd be fine too, but it requires changes for other classes and I'm just spitballing for paladin. Paladin has a lot of stuff that's of questionable usefulness in harder content, so I'd like to have one of our things with a fun mechanic like block reaction be a bit more useful.
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    Kakita Ucalibur
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    Siren
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    Paladin Lv 86
    Quote Originally Posted by Brannigan View Post
    The difference between Silence/Stun and Pacification is that other classes can Stun and Silence. Until there's more classes have access to pacification I don't really see it being a thing on hard content. I don't mean to sound like I'm moving the goalposts, but there's nothing harder than Ifrit (Hard) that can be pacified right now (I guess you could say Bone Dragon is harder, kind of maybe). If, say, Twintania could be pacified and prevent Death Sentence and plummet it'd be great for Shield Swipe, but it'd also mean that you're basically required to bring a paladin.
    We do not know what the forthcoming Musketeer class (It could get a 2s Pacify equivalent of the Archer's Blunt Arrow), the next 3 dungeons, Leviathan, Gilgamesh or turns 6-9 will bring.

    They could take the blocking requirement off of Shield Swipe and add pacification to another class (Rain of Death and One Ilm Punch are kind of crappy) and make more content that's pacify-enabled - that'd be fine too, but it requires changes for other classes and I'm just spitballing for paladin. Paladin has a lot of stuff that's of questionable usefulness in harder content, so I'd like to have one of our things with a fun mechanic like block reaction be a bit more useful.
    I also don't want to loose the Benefit on a Block part of the ability the change I would make to it are along the lines of this:

    Shield Swipe
    Instant
    2.5s
    TP 40
    Range 3y
    Deliver an attack with potency 100.
    Additional Effect: Pacify for 2s
    Combo Action: Successful Block
    Combo Potency: 210
    Combo Effect: Pacify for 6s
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    Last edited by Ultimatecalibur; 02-27-2014 at 04:10 PM.

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    Chross Agito
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    Gladiator Lv 70
    I would prefer to have shield swipe to aoe than to have it off the gcd. Pld seemed to lack for aoe agro skill and flash is not meant to be spammed anyway and also our circle scorn doesnt generate enmity neither. But putting aoe means SE gonna put more tp cost and a decrease in atk potency. Although i was hoping they would bring back our spirit within combo.
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