Quote Originally Posted by Susanoh View Post
If you think my analogy is off topic, then you aren't seeing the complete uselessness in parroting the ToS as if it has relevance to the discussion.

By agreeing to the ToS, you agree that SE can ban you at any time "for no reason." Not "if they find you harmful to the game" or any of that. It specifically states "FOR NO REASON" in all capital letters for you to see. If you wouldn't be satisfied with SE randomly banning you or a bunch of your friends just for giggles, then you agreed to something that you wouldn't put up with. In which case, what you agreed to you're only willing to put up with on a case by case basis, making the entire argument that "this is what you signed up for" pointless.

Edit: To make this more clear, no player in their right mind would ever in a million years play a game where developers abused their ToS to the fullest extent they are technically allowed. To even suggest that players should roll over and deal with something not just because it's the reasonable thing to do (which is fine), but because it's in the ToS, is ridiculous.
I haven't seen or heard of them banning anyone for "No Reason", that's simply there incase someone gets accidently banned to cover their behinds.
Stop trying to scapegoat the subject.


I posted it because people were whining "I want my money back, I want my time back, GOD ITS NOT FAIR!". So, yes you DID miss the point and your analogy has nothing to do with the topic at hand, because you DID sign up for this and its very clearly relevant.

Quote Originally Posted by Susanoh View Post
To even suggest that players should roll over and deal with something not just because it's the reasonable thing to do (which is fine), but because it's in the ToS, is ridiculous.
By no means, roll over and let them tickle your belly for 2 hours. But everyone agreed to the ToS which says "You agree that we'll take the game down whenever we please for as long as we please". That's why you agreed to it in the first place.

The big issue here however is not the Terms of Service, or people getting banned, or why the sky is blue.

It's people who are crying and complaining about something they don't understand. When the basic answer is; "Things break, they need fixed, get over it".

That's my original point, if you can't understand that /shrug. (Ah well, at least I tried)