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  1. #51
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shioban View Post
    For all the "I want a refund" and "Please explain to my wife x" and "Diz is so stupid, I didnt agree 2 dis"

    Read the Terms of Service you agreed to when you signed up for this;

    http://support.na.square-enix.com/ru...1&tag=users_en
    Great job restating the ToS like a snarky jerk, and missing the point completely. If SE doesn't fix these problems and calm the large amounts of players affected by them then they'll just take their money elsewhere and no one will win.
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    No chance this could be an ISP issue? I've played solid on balmung for the last two days and hardly any issues at all. Some people that have these issues in my FC say they're resolved with using wtfast
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  3. #53
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    Wow. This whole issue reminds of ARR launch day.
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    1.You have the outspoken 'we're loving it' mob who are probably ignoring issues.
    2.In addition, there's the optimistic 'I'm having fun and waiting for more' group, who are willing to overlook some things and hope others are fixed soon.
    3.Then there's the 'I really want this to work, but it isn't' group, who see some faint promise in the game, but don't have a lot of faith that the developers will fix the large problems anytime soon.
    4.Lastly, there's the 'I dislike it, therefore no one can like it' group.
    -TV Tropes

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    Kicked from CT again tonight in the middle of Bone Dragon.

    I just hope this issue is solved tonight during the scheduled maintenance.
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  5. #55
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChewieFlakes View Post
    Great job restating the ToS like a snarky jerk, and missing the point completely. If SE doesn't fix these problems and calm the large amounts of players affected by them then they'll just take their money elsewhere and no one will win.
    It would seem that you've missed the point. You agreed to it, meaning you have to deal with it regardless of what the issue may be. If the game and or sections of it are broken and need maintenance to fix it, you as a consenting adult agreed to wait for whatever period of time they've stated. Or are you completely missing the point of a basic MMO ToS?


    Would you rather them leave it and not pull it down to fix it?
    Think sensibly and you'll come to the conclusion "It's better they take it offline and fix it, yes".

    They are fixing this unique problem as we speak.
    What I mean by this is, once you fix it, it's very likely to break again or even make it worse once you put it back up again.

    As I pointed out already, this is a completley different set of problems to the one you probably encountered last week, and the week before that, and the many months before that during the BETA/ALPHA stages.
    If you're having difficulty distinguishing what I mean by this, this video might help: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueZ6tvqhk8U

    A memory leak is completely different problem from a database error, so why would you lump them into the same category of "OMG SE fix this".


    If you were expecting an MMO to have a flawless 24/7, one month solid without issue status, then you're never going to find an MMO you're happy with.

    WOW, Guild Wars 2, TERA, Star Wars, RIFT. EVERY single one of these MMOs has had database errors, memory corruption, memory leaks, small lines of code causing conflicts and crashes or hangs.

    As a (supposedly) mature adult, you agreed to deal with these problems when they occurred, my "snarky" remark was simply pointing out that YOU agreed to deal with it, but yet here we are.





    Quote Originally Posted by ChewieFlakes View Post
    If SE doesn't fix these problems and calm the large amounts of players affected by them then they'll just take their money elsewhere and no one will win.
    I'm sorry, but if you can't deal with a video game going down for 1-2 hours, you're going to need a priority check.
    That's genuinely worrying and I'd recommend you seek further help if it's causing you (or anyone else) this amount of stress.

    I have yet to find a single person I know who has left the game, because the servers have gone down for maintenance due to an error.

    If you want to leave over a few bits of maintenance, you know how to cancel your subscription and un install the game, you'd be the only one loosing out here.

    Quote Originally Posted by ReplicaX View Post
    If they are under 18, I sure hope they got their parents permission.

    /dryhumor
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    Last edited by Shioban; 02-26-2014 at 02:21 PM.

  6. #56
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shioban View Post
    It would seem that you've missed the point. You agreed to it, meaning you have to deal with it regardless of what the issue may be. If the game and or sections of it are broken and need maintenance to fix it, you as a consenting adult agreed to wait for whatever period of time they've stated. Or are you completely missing the point of a basic MMO ToS?
    If they are under 18, I sure hope they got their parents permission.

    /dryhumor
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  7. #57
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    Quote Originally Posted by waldo View Post
    No chance this could be an ISP issue? I've played solid on balmung for the last two days and hardly any issues at all. Some people that have these issues in my FC say they're resolved with using wtfast
    Thats because Balmung (your server) isnt on the Primal data center, which is the one with the most problems right now.
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    Hito Yu
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gardes View Post
    Is that what they claim? I find SE's words untrustworthy these days. Especially, Yoship's.
    I'm sure you could do a better job. lol I always get a good laugh from conspiracy theorists, though.
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    Sorry, double post.
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    We had to cancel our raid tonight once again due to everyone either getting 90k or 10105. We tried for an whole hour.
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