Throw awat the iLv system, implement a PvE Rank system.

[Gamemako]

Setting an ilvl requirement simply means you want players... to complete content at the desired... success rate. It has nothing to do with skill.

Fundamentally contradictory statement, since it can easily be completed at ilvl57 with competent players and will still be hopeless at ilvl75 with crappy players.

I cleared Garuda EX > Ifrit EX in a weekend on my MNK alt with i72 gear. I out dps'd everyone in the party, was always last one standing, and on all fights it was my first clear as a MNK (I did go MNK one time on main for Titan EX to give some FC people practice, they didn't get past heart).

Ha, I feel ya. The fun thing about playing a DPS over a tank is that you get to see this awesome bar that shows how bad everyone else really is. Ain't nothin' like tanking a giant, being eaten by KB, and being eaten by Acheron due to tank deaths all in the same run... with i71 gear.

[NaliaBrown]

Fundamentally contradictory statement, since it can easily be completed at ilvl57 with competent players and will still be hopeless at ilvl75 with crappy players.

This may be true, but I think one of the reasons people set the ilvl higher for fights like Titan HM is because with a higher ilvl requirement, there's a greater chance at getting players who are competent. It's not a guarantee by any means. It just helps your odds.

[Gamemako]

This may be true, but I think one of the reasons people set the ilvl higher for fights like Titan HM is because with a higher ilvl requirement, there's a greater chance at getting players who are competent. It's not a guarantee by any means. It just helps your odds.

Which is quite explicitly conflating gear level and skill.

[NaliaBrown]

*sigh* I'm not actually arguing for or against either side of this argument. I'm just trying to explain why some people set the ilvl higher for fights like Titan HM in party finder.

[Lurkios]

Fundamentally contradictory statement, since it can easily be completed at ilvl57 with competent players and will still be hopeless at ilvl75 with crappy players.

Saying things does not make those things truths. If you're attempting to deny that you have a better chance of completing content in an efficient manner with a random sampling of ilvl75 players than you do with a random sampling of ilvl57 players you are a fool.