3k TP in Single Hit Question & Light Thrust v. Heavy Thrust

[origamikitsune]

I first noticed it in R40 leves almost immediately after dinging 50. That change in TP generation is what clued me in to the fact that something had changed (I hadn't even noticed that I had ranked, it was so anti-climactic. I can't say that I've paid any specific attention to when fighting higher ranking stuff like the buff or dodore, I just assumed that it was normal and have taken it for granted since. I will pay more attention to the level of mobs, etc., and what exactly I'm fighting. See if I see any different results on R60+ mobs.

Regardless, I'm aware of what TV, CT, and MR2 do, which is part of my confusion. As far as I can tell, NOTHING that I am using is significantly different than other LNC. I should point out, however, that another LNC 50 I frequently duo with has an almost identical action bar setup and cycle as I do, as well as nearly identical stats and gear and he experiences the same free-flowing TP that I do. If I can find my old copy of FRAPS, I'll see about posting a video of it but no promises. It might have been on my HDD that (literally) ground to a halt.

[Krausus]

I mean i get TP super fast but I have never gone from 0 to 3K in one hit and you shouldn't be gaining any TP from using a weapon skill in fact you should only be loosing it, none of the lancer I know have experienced this that I know of

[Altano]

Pooka, just enjoy the gift from the TP gods. It'll be taken away from us soon enough.

[Krausus]

hmm I dunno, Lancers are gonna be the new hotness now with speed surge increasing auto attack rate

[feint2021]

Usually happens after Chaos Thrust and having Cia2 active. Must be a bug as it doesn't always happen but is quite frequent.

[Irana]

How in hells name where you getting 3ktp in one hit? XD

[origamikitsune]

So today, fighting Ura. Used Chaos Thrust. Hit 0TP. Used Heavy Thrust. 3kTP. No CIA2 icon on Ura at the time. Also happened on buff, this time after I died, ran /back/ to the fight, unloaded a Chaos Thrust, regular attak, 3kTP. No idea which buffs/debuffs were on buff at the time. Wicked stuff.

[Altano]

No idea which buffs/debuffs were on buff at the time.

I love this sentence by itself.

Aside, Chaos Thrust is ridiculous. You really don't need any buffs or debuffs up most times I've found to hit 3k TP with the hit after it.

[Krausus]

hmm if we can narrow it down to chaos thrust then i would be wiling to bet it has something to do with the ability being multiple hits.

Possible Bug: first hit of chaos thrust drains all available TP each additional hit adds TP but said TP is not applied until the next non TP consuming attack is used.

[origamikitsune]

That seems to be going on; except that it is related more to the character than the mob. You can use CT one mob, kill it, then attack another mob. You still benefit from the rapid TP gain. Perhaps it has to do with the fact that only the first attack on CT is considered the weaponskill? What I mean by that is if you use something like Bloodlust, you only gain HP off the first attack. I assume that your buffs for more damage work the same way (I haven't actually investigated, I assume that since it works that way with bloodlust, it works that way with he others). But for whatever reason, if that is the case, it explains what is going on.

Question is... is it a bug? Or is it working as intended? If it is a bug... how is that going to affect multi-hit weapons when we have them? I would be very interested to know how a PGL gains TP. Anyone want to do some testing on PGL to see if TP gain is for one or two hits? If there is a coloration to multi-hit (as opposed to the WS itself).