dose anyone miss the old way of lvling up insted of fates (plz read)

[Enkidoh]

What exactly prevents you from making a party and just head to a zone with enemies that are 10+ levels higher than you and start murdering mobs?

Because mobs are set up to automatically link on everything if you try pulling them on a party, meaning it's impossible to 'camp' them. Plus mobs are also leashed to a specific spot so you can't pull them from a long distance like you used to in FFXI. And the exp you get from a mob that's ten-twenty levels higher than you is just the same as the exp you get for a mob that's ten levels below you.

Hence, although nothing is indeed stopping you from doing an old-school FFXI style exp party, it's not worth it really in the long run, even assuming you can find people willing to do that - especially when it's easier to just do FATEs for the same exp and get a bonus at the end too.

[Vejjiegirl]

A good way to level with friends is by Leve Linking.

[Kio]

Trying to build up skill chains and seeing how many dozens of mobs you could kill at once was rather fun. The closest thing I have right now to that is the water sprite camp with chocobos.

[Dhex]

What exactly prevents you from making a party and just head to a zone with enemies that are 10+ levels higher than you and start murdering mobs?

Honestly it's not a horrible move at a certain level. You're significantly stronger in the over world than in dungeons (lv30 range) you'd need; 8/8 Party 3 Tank 3 DPS 2 Heals, an area with a high population of mobs, and a rested bonus. 300+XP per mob higher with a good chain - a Tank can handle 3-6 mobs at a time, DPS helps Tank with kills, Healers coverTank + DPS pairs & lay Aero on everything in reach.

3x (300+) EXP x3 = 2700 EXP per pull - and you could even cheat the system with a little willing help from a lv50 BLM or WHM -> Pull then let outside AoE (Holy/Flare/Fire2) burn your mobs more quickly.

People are just too lazy to group up and try it. :P

[mmcsky]

In the end, it's all a grind either way you look at it. I prefer running varying dungeons then staring at the 1000th blue crab though.

Yeaahhh, but it is not the same if you do it with strangers than with fc mates, you really need to build some "comradership" otherwise you will be running solo most of the time when you need things like relic quests or farm groups for coil or extremes.

[Cryptic-Shadow]

im not saying remove fates or dungeons. im saying bring back the old lvling ways some people like grinding fates or dungeons. i just miss making a party at lvl 10 and staying together for 10hrs+ i have had many experience like that in ffxi would be nice to bring that to 14. in a party you can have 8 people in a low lvl dungeon you get 4 what do you do if you have more then 4 friends that you want to play with. what if say me and 5 other of my RL friends bought the game to play it together. Story line quests force you to play dungeons. or whats to say i bought the game cause i like the game and i wana play solo the low exp from mobs makes that take way to long. if im solo and its trying to force me to play with 3 other people that i dont know some times i just wana play solo witch i could do in 11 but not so much in 14. personally i always took my BLU out to get spells when i wanted to solo on 11. but that last part is a totally different subject.

[Faedden]

Didnt play 1.23 but I'm assuming this is about grinding mobs?

I love grinding mobs, I hate fates and the dungeons in this game are long and boring so I hate those too >_>

[Cryptic-Shadow]

yea grinding mobs is pretty much what its about but with how it is now i just dont see any point with going out and spending hours grinding. in 11 i could spend hours and get a good amount of lvls. in 14 i can spend a few hours chasing fates everywhere and maby get half a lvl or que for a dungeon and sit there for 3 hours and not even get in one which is the reason i wish grinding mobs was more worth it. i have read all the responses to this thread and once or twice cant remember some one has said bringing mobs that are as powerful as the ones in the dungeons out and that give the same exp. personally i wouldn't care if everything got a power upgrade as long as they upgraded how much exp it handed out. although with low lvl 1-10 still gota leave them a lill bit squishyer cause people are still getting used to game and controls. i personally even in 14 can hit 10 in a mater of an hour or so.

[Cryptic-Shadow]

and also i think as you go through the game the diversity in look for the mobs and fighting styles even should change im not saying totally but when i look at a mob i wana be able just by the way they look prety much tell wether im looking at a higher lvl one or a lower lvl one. whether that be with collor or hell make the higher lvl mobs a bit bigger and add a lill bit of scaring or something. if said mob was able to reach said lvl they woulda went thro allot and got a few scares maby they became sickly or something its just another topic whether its disused in this topic or not just another one of the things i would like to see fixed or tweaked. along with adding more jobs but im giving them a good amount of time before i complain about that.(all im saying is give me my BLU back)

[Cryptic-Shadow]

there are multiple things that i think SE could do to help but its all gona take time. altho with the fates i do think if they made it where partying was a good way for lvling they should take the number of fates that spawn in one zone are eather less or spread out a lill bit more cause one thing i would be woried about is if you are partying then a fate spawnd on you with the way fates are (granted i hadent played in a lill bit plan on playing soon just gota talk myself into it cause i miss how 1.0 and 11 where) i lag so bad that im eather dead befor i see one mob or cant hit one mob cause i cant see them to hit them and people complain if you spam aoe's ive been siting here thinking of ways cause i know you cant just put the idea out there and it even have a chance of hapaning you gota figure out or sugest a viable way for it to be done.......................................................