Now that leves will be gone from our main exp function...

[Naqaj]

This is the biggest thign for me I like parties...and mob grinding

What's keeping you from doing it?

[AlexiaKidd]

What's keeping you from doing it?

Mob distribution, respawn times, 10 rank SP limit on Mob's, not enough Camps and so on. Plus most of the community wouldn't bother as Leves have spoilt them so if Mobs don't give 500Sp then they aren't interested.

[Gath]

What's keeping you from doing it?

I do grind mobs, my ARC hit 50 by grinding on mobs at different levels, barely did leves, took about 3.5 weeks to hit 50 that way.

[darkstarpoet1]

goodbye leve onry noobs. Hello skillful mob grind parties.

it takes alot of skill for a party of people to go kill mobs that you can kill solo. you can kill a level 60 mob on your 50 by yourself. that's what will be grinded on by an entire party.

[Wynn]

since when is mob grinding skillful?

[Joeking]

since when is mob grinding skillful?

Since XI. Duh!

[Gath]

since when is mob grinding skillful?

Mob grinding isn't as skillful as the amount of time it lets you learn your class. That's all leveling is, is learning your class, basically.

[Molly_Millions]

Mob grinding isn't as skillful as the amount of time it lets you learn your class. That's all leveling is, is learning your class, basically.

But when the fights play out completely differently than end-game battles (NM fights) how exactly does that allow you to learn your chosen class? I'd argue that in this game, you can only really learn your class after 50, or by fighting lots of mini NMs at or below r30.

[Gath]

But when the fights play out completely differently than end-game battles (NM fights) how exactly does that allow you to learn your chosen class? I'd argue that in this game, you can only really learn your class after 50, or by fighting lots of mini NMs at or below r30.

When you use an ability or set of abilities over and over you get to learn exactly what they do and what situations they're good for, though, doing the endgame stuff will help you REFINE what you learned, you still learn a great deal actually leveling...except with this current system...button mashing is not something that helps you learn....unless you're playing a scrolling shooter...button spam ftl.

[Molly_Millions]

When you use an ability or set of abilities over and over you get to learn exactly what they do and what situations they're good for, though, doing the endgame stuff will help you REFINE what you learned, you still learn a great deal actually leveling...except with this current system...button mashing is not something that helps you learn....unless you're playing a scrolling shooter...button spam ftl.

So how is grinding open world mobs that are incredibly easy any different from fighting leve mobs that are incredibly easy? In the current system (with leves as they are today) it takes 5 weeks to get to 50 if all you do is fail leves. That's plenty of time to learn what all of your abilities do. So again, how is grinding open world mobs any different than leve grinding?