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    As much as I hate to agree with Gift, it seems most people only meet his complaints with baseless insults and internet memes. Sadly, it has been 9 months with very little actual results and a lot of promises that just keep getting pushed back farther each month. I feel like we are being ignored, at least the ideals of the NA community.
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    Actually, I think Giftforce has a point, though I disagree with the insults.

    I was hoping for a completely innovative game from the ground up too. But I still think this game will have a lot of innovation of it's own, even if it's starting to be reminicent of other mmos.

    The sad truth is they didn't design it well enough out of the gate, and they had to save it fast. Many said this would happen, and it did.

    I still enjoy this game, and I'm not going anywhere. But I think you're right. Innovation, legacy, and top notch games got Final Fantasy where it is. A stream of mediocre will bring the line back down. I hope SE is taking future games, mmo or console, more seriously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Serio View Post
    Yoshi-P starts casting Sleepga IV on Yoshi-P.
    Yoshi-P is asleep.
    The Troll hits Yoshi-P for 9000 damage!
    Yoshi-P is no longer asleep!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chezen View Post
    Actually, I think Giftforce has a point, though I disagree with the insults.

    I was hoping for a completely innovative game from the ground up too. But I still think this game will have a lot of innovation of it's own, even if it's starting to be reminicent of other mmos.

    The sad truth is they didn't design it well enough out of the gate, and they had to save it fast. Many said this would happen, and it did.

    I still enjoy this game, and I'm not going anywhere. But I think you're right. Innovation, legacy, and top notch games got Final Fantasy where it is. A stream of mediocre will bring the line back down. I hope SE is taking future games, mmo or console, more seriously.
    Delusions of Grandeur schemes usually have a way of self imploding.

    They should have started backwards like they are doing now. Start with solid base and innovate around it, not innovate and then try to make it solid. Sad fact is, they're out of time now unlike 4years ago.

    Stupidity at its finest.
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    DONE. You're not even reading or analyzing what I write; you cherry pick a few words and phrases, that you throw some insults and unsupported claims at, in hopes of countering whatever arguments I put on the table.

    Go back to high school and take logic 101 and some critical thinking classes.
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  5. #345
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    I like yoshi P a lot. See I waited after buying the game before playing, I originally had the game at release, but after the reviews held off, then started at the end of april, early may. I can see why people are excited, you hated the state of the game so much, and now something new is coming, and more is to come, I sort of feel shocked at the sort of direction the game is taking. But it really does not bother me none the less .
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  6. #346
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    Quote Originally Posted by giftforce View Post
    [Removed by Moderator according to the FINAL FANTASY XIV FORUM Guidelines.]
    Even though you do make some sense, i understand a "little". This was a new design and they are butchering it, and destroying what was there. I mean if they have classes, why need jobs? What about the other new classes, that were supposed to come out but the old team got cut? what will be done with those?

    You should calm down in your posts, I hardly post here just lurk and you are already irritating me.
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    Last edited by Melodicya; 06-28-2011 at 11:41 PM.

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    You know, trolling trolls only makes you a troll as well. The disease is spreading rapidly and there is hardly any room under the bridge. =(

    If only people spoke of their thoughts of the topic and did not just attack people who disagree, then maybe an actual logical debate could occur. But instead, just mud-slinging and the lines are blurred on who is really the troll here.

    Can people stop with the finger-pointing and just stay on topic? Give suggestions or counter points with intelligent reasoning, but down right belittling, disrespecting, slander should really stop.
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    Last edited by Eldaena; 06-28-2011 at 07:09 PM.

  8. #348
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    I love the idea of making guild marks specific to the city the guild is in, hopefully it goes along way to spreading out the player base from uldah, but my concern is the anima feature....if Im in need of guild marks from say arch (grid), Mara (LL), and Therm (uldah)....not to mention if your LS mates/friends are scatterd around the world guild mark collecting and want to come together for dungeons or something...thats either alot of porting or alot of running. Hopefully the mount system is around the corner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldaena View Post
    You know, trolling trolls only makes you a troll as well. The disease is spreading rapidly and there is hardly any room under the bridge. =(

    If only people spoke of their thoughts of the topic and did not just attack people who disagree, then maybe an actual logical debate could occur. But instead, just mud-slinging and the lines are blurred on who is really the troll here.

    Can people stop with the finger-pointing and just stay on topic? Give suggestions or counter points with intelligent reasoning, but down right belittling, disrespecting, slander should really stop.
    I agree whole heartedly.

    So in regards to the letters as of late I have been happy because details are being fleshed out and teasers are coming. I am awaiting the patches and took a small break because I want to experience the changes as they happen. I have one 50
    and all my others are between 20-40 so i am excited

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    Hello Everyone!

    A number of posts on both sides of this discussion have been made that were not related to the topic and had to be removed. Please try to keep the conversation on topic. If you believe the argument is frivolous, it may be best to not participate. As was mentioned by a few other posters, accusing others of Trolling can indeed be considered a form of Trolling itself. If you believe a player is violating the Forum Guidelines, please use the Report Feature to bring the matter to our attention so it can be addressed.

    The Forum Guidelines, of course, can always be reviewed at the link below:

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    Thank you for your cooperation!
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