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    i think hes saying anyone could attack the mobs, but that they would be spawned by initiating the quest, the point of most open world quests is that everyone can participate.

    So basically it would be like 100 raptors pop over the area, 3 or 4 groups kill the stuff, all involved get bonus sp, and some currency/fame/items or something.
    kind of like a really large behest, but open to all, with a sp reward and no time limit.

    its not a horrible idea, but how good it is will depend largely on how well its implemented.

    or, maybe he does mean one group only
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    Quote Originally Posted by Physic View Post
    i think hes saying anyone could attack the mobs, but that they would be spawned by initiating the quest, the point of most open world quests is that everyone can participate.

    So basically it would be like 100 raptors pop over the area, 3 or 4 groups kill the stuff, all involved get bonus sp, and some currency/fame/items or something.
    kind of like a really large behest, but open to all, with a sp reward and no time limit.

    its not a horrible idea, but how good it is will depend largely on how well its implemented.

    or, maybe he does mean one group only
    exactly, it was a thought off the top of my head which is better then most of the stuff SE has come up with in the past 3 years(or however long they've been knowing on this game) im not saying its flawless and instead would like for anyone who wants to point out the flaws and give their suggestion to improve upon it.
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    I'm not really sensitive to the names and whatever. I understand that you want group content with an objective and some minor rewards, as opposed to just mindless grinding. Just not sure if adding more duplicate content and giving it a different name is the right answer.

    And I just realized... isn't behest practically what you're asking for? They have fixes for that on the to-do list too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfie View Post
    I'm not really sensitive to the names and whatever. I understand that you want group content with an objective and some minor rewards, as opposed to just mindless grinding. Just not sure if adding more duplicate content and giving it a different name is the right answer.

    And I just realized... isn't behest practically what you're asking for? They have fixes for that on the to-do list too.
    I really dont think you get it, grinding endless numbers of mobs has always been part of mmos. IM only suggesting adding grind locations with decent sp and adding a little something to it to make it more interesting. behest are limited to 8 people per 30 min spawn a small number of low lvl mobs. Anytime you have quest that involve gaining sp by killing mobs its duplicating content. I would love to elaborate but i really feel as though you are reading this with blinders on.

    also you said its the same as a dungeon now its the same as a behest does that mean that dungeon and behest are actually the same. Like i said all content has similarities its whats different about them that makes them unique.
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    Quote Originally Posted by syntaxlies View Post
    I really dont think you get it, grinding endless numbers of mobs has always been part of mmos. IM only suggesting adding grind locations with decent sp and adding a little something to it to make it more interesting. behest are limited to 8 people per 30 min spawn a small number of low lvl mobs. Anytime you have quest that involve gaining sp by killing mobs its duplicating content. I would love to elaborate but i really feel as though you are reading this with blinders on.
    based on what you say here, i interpret it as : i want mobs to give more sp

    thats really not a solution to anything, your still grinding, just faster

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    based on what you say here, i interpret it as : i want mobs to give more sp

    thats really not a solution to anything, your still grinding, just faster
    not more sp, decent as in not a waste of my time. Grind party's are formed all the time why not take the opportunity to turn it into something interesting.

    a balanced sp per hour system

    also to the your still grinding part

    I know its still a grind, im not saying to make this the main aspect of the game but to be a part of the game for people who enjoy just grinding on mobs to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by syntaxlies View Post
    not more sp, decent as in not a waste of my time. Grind party's are formed all the time why not take the opportunity to turn it into something interesting.

    a balanced sp per hour system
    making it more interesting? grinding is grinding is grinding

    you just want more sp to make it more "worthwhile" in your opinion

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    Quote Originally Posted by syntaxlies View Post
    I really dont think you get it, grinding endless numbers of mobs has always been part of mmos. IM only suggesting adding grind locations with decent sp and adding a little something to it to make it more interesting. behest are limited to 8 people per 30 min spawn a small number of low lvl mobs. Anytime you have quest that involve gaining sp by killing mobs its duplicating content. I would love to elaborate but i really feel as though you are reading this with blinders on.
    I feel like we're arguing something we both agree on here.

    They said multiple times that they want to fix behest to make it so that 8 people don't shut out the dozens of others that are trying to get in. Maybe behest will be the "group leves" and grind spots you want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfie View Post
    I feel like we're arguing something we both agree on here.

    They said multiple times that they want to fix behest to make it so that 8 people don't shut out the dozens of others that are trying to get in. Maybe behest will be the "group leves" and grind spots you want.

    They'll need more monsters, harder monsters. We must consult the Goat Lords!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfie View Post
    I feel like we're arguing something we both agree on here.

    They said multiple times that they want to fix behest to make it so that 8 people don't shut out the dozens of others that are trying to get in. Maybe behest will be the "group leves" and grind spots you want.
    that would be terrific, unfortunately at this point we can only speculate. I wasn't trying to be nasty even if it cam across that way.
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