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  1. #161
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    I don't see why people have this huge problem with 2 class = 1 job system. It's basically how FFT/A/A2 worked. You gained abilities in multiple jobs to unlock the advanced jobs. The system has been used before, it works and it's actually pretty great. If anything it enforces the spirit of the armoury system. You're supposed to level multiple classes, not just one.
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  2. #162
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcell View Post
    I don't see why people have this huge problem with 2 class = 1 job system. It's basically how FFT/A/A2 worked. You gained abilities in multiple jobs to unlock the advanced jobs. The system has been used before, it works and it's actually pretty great. If anything it enforces the spirit of the armoury system. You're supposed to level multiple classes, not just one.
    I agree, I'm not seeing the problem with it. If anything, it gives you more things to do.

    Wasn't that what everyone was wanting in the first place?
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  3. #163
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    I think they are having some troubles with investors abit reason patches are moving slowly and other games are being made that may bring a profit. I think sony lost something like 8 billion this year. Which is alot... so idk. But in any case i like this game and hope something happens.
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  4. #164
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    Quote Originally Posted by Corrderio View Post
    SE of North America is just here for translations/distributing for the NA reason unless there's something else I'm missing. Since I never heard of the NA branch of a JP company making their own game, except with Mystic Quest.
    That was made in Japan, but just geared for the US, with the idea that Westerners weren't good enough for hardcore console RPGs. Which is ironic since Wizardry came from here and the Japanese luuuuuurv Wizardry.

    I think you're thinking of Secret of Evermore.

    There are other exceptions but for the most part you're right. I used to know a number of people in Konami's US operations, and they were generally treated like the redheaded stepchildren.
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  5. #165
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malakhim View Post
    I agree, I'm not seeing the problem with it. If anything, it gives you more things to do.

    Wasn't that what everyone was wanting in the first place?
    Yes, but that makes too much sense, there must be something to rage about!! /sarcasm
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    FFXI (RET): Ragnarok Red Mage 75
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    Lol funny how your English is better then mine.
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    I'm not a troll I'm just the voice of truth :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cutriss View Post
    That was made in Japan, but just geared for the US, with the idea that Westerners weren't good enough for hardcore console RPGs. Which is ironic since Wizardry came from here and the Japanese luuuuuurv Wizardry.

    I think you're thinking of Secret of Evermore.
    Agree here. Evermore was Squaresoft US' baby. It is also seen as one of the most underrated games of all time, but there you have it.
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    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
    * Design ideas:
    Red Mage - COMPLETE (https://tinyurl.com/y6tsbnjh), Chemist - Second Pass (https://tinyurl.com/ssuog88), Thief - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/vdjpkoa), Rune Fencer - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/y3fomdp2)

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    Glad to hear a bit more about the planned changes. Sadly of course timelines are absent. I am hoping for a mid July release to kick things off but who knows. I do hope we get more info everyday till the patch comes outs.
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  9. #169
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    Thank you, Kristina! Very much appreciate the translation
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  10. #170
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cutriss View Post
    That was made in Japan, but just geared for the US, with the idea that Westerners weren't good enough for hardcore console RPGs. Which is ironic since Wizardry came from here and the Japanese luuuuuurv Wizardry.

    I think you're thinking of Secret of Evermore.

    There are other exceptions but for the most part you're right. I used to know a number of people in Konami's US operations, and they were generally treated like the redheaded stepchildren.
    Yeah you're right, my bad.
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