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    Quote Originally Posted by Evangela View Post
    did they planned to solve the issue that non japanese players feel like we're just a second grade citizen? or looking into hiring more translator and web programmer?
    Don't be affected by those "noisy minority" on the JP forum.
    Now I am here speaking English with you, just like Rentahamster and Reinheart speaking Japanese on JP side.
    A well educated people won't lost himself into race hate.

    Many JP players are just forgot their English ability they learned in the High School because they don't need to use it in their rest of life...
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    Last edited by Melodicya; 06-27-2011 at 10:02 PM.
    フォーラム右上の開発者投稿、こまめにチェックしよう。

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristina_Farron View Post
    Don't be affected by those "noisy minority" on the JP forum.
    Now I am here speaking English with you, just like Rentahamster and Reinheart speaking Japanese on JP side.
    A well educated people won't lost himself into race hate.

    Many JP players are just forgot their English ability they learned in the High School because they don't need to use it in their rest of life...
    Yeah..I was forced by my parents to retain my english lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by giftforce View Post
    Why level CON?

    It's a pointless system that makes the armoury system redundant. If they are going to ruin the armory system they might as well just discard it. They are trying to implement two incompatible systems (one which encourages freedom and the other which discourages it). You can't have both.

    There are a myriad of threads (mostly made by Cairdeas) that suggest ways for both systems to coexist, but making WHM replace CON is not one of them.

    If WHM, RDM, and RAINBOW COLOURED MAGE replace CON, then it serves to suggest that CON is pointless. The armory system is pointless now.
    Many people already agree the armory system is pointless because it lead to bland, tasteless classes because even with the ability to crossclass skills, it really didn't lead to anything amazing. It's why MMOs, even with customization still have very defined and unique classes excluding blatantly obvious faction opposition similarities, e.g both sides have "light/dark" races of the same base stat nature.

    Nothing is being replaced, even in the small bit of info we have they stated numerous times nothing was replaced, but the jobs are more for party setups.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristina_Farron View Post
    Don't be affected by those "noisy minority" on the JP forum.
    Now I am here speaking English with you, just like Rentahamster and Reinheart speaking Japanese on JP side.
    A well educated people won't lost himself into race hate.

    Many JP players are just forgot their English ability they learned in the High School because they don't need to use it in their rest of life...
    Thank you for the translation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristina_Farron View Post
    Don't be affected by those "noisy minority" on the JP forum.
    Now I am here speaking English with you, just like Rentahamster and Reinheart speaking Japanese on JP side.
    A well educated people won't lost himself into race hate.

    Many JP players are just forgot their English ability they learned in the High School because they don't need to use it in their rest of life...
    Thanks for translating for us. Maybe SE should hire you to teach them english.

    SEは, 英語を教えるために、あなたを雇う必要があります。
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    Last edited by giftforce; 06-27-2011 at 04:00 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by giftforce View Post
    Thanks for translating for us. Maybe SE should hire you to teach them english.
    SEは, 英語を教えるために、あなたを雇う必要があります。
    If you mean "SQEX should post this interview on Lodestone with EN/FR/DE version", I must clarify this is not the case.
    The original interview is posted on a paper magazine, so the copyright is belong to Famitsu, not SQEX.

    Basically I will be sued for this translation if they really want to.
    What I am done is no different from anime-fansub.
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    フォーラム右上の開発者投稿、こまめにチェックしよう。

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristina_Farron View Post
    Don't be affected by those "noisy minority" on the JP forum.
    Now I am here speaking English with you, just like Rentahamster and Reinheart speaking Japanese on JP side.
    A well educated people won't lost himself into race hate.

    Many JP players are just forgot their English ability they learned in the High School because they don't need to use it in their rest of life...
    I thank you for your kindness but they said "They hopes FFXIV can be widely accepted world-wide" then they told Famitsu everything they never told us on the lodestone or IGN or E3 or anywhere else and their translator suppose to do their job if they want to be widely accepted world-wide
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evangela View Post
    I thank you for your kindness but they said "They hopes FFXIV can be widely accepted world-wide" then they told Famitsu everything they never told us on the lodestone or IGN or E3 or anywhere else and their translator suppose to do their job if they want to be widely accepted world-wide
    It's very easy to understand:

    1. SE is a Japanese company first and foremost.
    2. English based companies by large doesn't give Japanese or Chinese outlets info till after they give their home outlets info, e.g E3 info is usually reported by bilingual individuals, it never comes directly from the company themselves.

    It's very common in the business world. Best part is, you guys get info when it matters and then continually complain about it. The producer letters get translated which comes directly from the guy in charge himself. If you guys truly were "ignored" you wouldn't even get those.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evangela View Post
    I thank you for your kindness but they said "They hopes FFXIV can be widely accepted world-wide" then they told Famitsu everything they never told us on the lodestone or IGN or E3 or anywhere else and their translator suppose to do their job if they want to be widely accepted world-wide
    Sigh.

    Yes, because there's no such thing as an "exclusive", right? By your reasoning, any interview the New York Times runs should be simulcast WORLDWIDE to every single major publication at the same time. Otherwise, they're not "widely accepted." TIME Magazine should never have an exclusive interview with any of its luminaries since, by your reasoning, that's unfair.

    This is a great interview that Square happened to grant to Connect! On Magazine.

    We're getting regular Letters from the Producer every ~2 - 3 weeks, with far more detailed release tables than what the magazines get (and these Letters are translated and posted on Lodestone immediately).

    Let's try and stay positive here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristina_Farron View Post
    Don't be affected by those "noisy minority" on the JP forum.
    There are people on the JP forums that speak badly of us? I guess I'm glad I don't speak Japanese, after all. Ignorance is bliss.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kristina_Farron View Post
    Now I am here speaking English with you, just like Rentahamster and Reinheart speaking Japanese on JP side.
    A well educated people won't lost himself into race hate.
    Words to live by.

    Thank you for your kind efforts, Kristina!