DF Roulette and Bonus Reward

[waldo]

Dev teams' thoughts on changing reward bonus to classes that have to sit around for 30+ minutes waiting for a group to form (DPS mostly) from the instant queue tank/healer jobs? I understand the bonus is there to get people to join as the classes that are in most need, but it's bonus enough to be insta-queued for duty I think.

Let's toss those that sit around and wait the longest a little extra exp or rewards please?

[Faedden]

Instant que? I have to wait like 18 minutes on my healer and now I have to wait 2 minutes on my tank. That aint instant!

[Leandras]

The system isn't designed to reward tank or healers but motivate people to play unpopular roles. If they move the bonus to those that wait the longest you will notice those 10-30min queues reverting back to 30-90mins like they were in 2.0

Could work if they scale the exp reward with he amount of time you spend waiting for the queue pop and replacing the most demand specs with more vanityish rewards. Like the player commendation achievements, Everybody loves fast queues "Finish 300 dungeons while playing a high demand job reward: white magitek armor"

[waldo]

The system isn't designed to reward tank or healers but motivate people to play unpopular roles. If they move the bonus to those that wait the longest you will notice those 10-30min queues reverting back to 30-90mins like they were in 2.0

I'm not so sure, right now my DF: Hard has a reward bonus of 750 gil.... that's hardly something to make me want to change to healer to get the 750 gil.
Fact is right now I could log on my paladin and do 2 instances in the time it would take me to wait for 1 to form/finish on my BLM. In effect, paladin gets twice as much exp (leveling) or playtime (lvl 50).
The fact you have to wait a fraction of the time to play as Tank and Healer (sometimes healer) should be reward enough. Toss us poor saps that sit around for 30 minutes to play our dragoon a bone here.

[XNihili]

I'm not so sure, right now my DF: Hard has a reward bonus of 750 gil.... that's hardly something to make me want to change to healer to get the 750 gil.
Fact is right now I could log on my paladin and do 2 instances in the time it would take me to wait for 1 to form/finish on my BLM. In effect, paladin gets twice as much exp (leveling) or playtime (lvl 50).
The fact you have to wait a fraction of the time to play as Tank and Healer (sometimes healer) should be reward enough. Toss us poor saps that sit around for 30 minutes to play our dragoon a bone here.

The fact that you play a job you like rather than a job people need should be reward enough

[Deathscythe343]

It might also help if they totally removed the daily restriction to the bonus reward. At the moment most people just do the 1 random daily roulette for the bonus and then go on to queue up for the highest possible dungeon they can to get the most xp per mob they can. Something like this is very likely to draw more people into the system.

[Felis]

Dev teams' thoughts on changing reward bonus to classes that have to sit around for 30+ minutes waiting for a group to form (DPS mostly) from the instant queue tank/healer jobs? I understand the bonus is there to get people to join as the classes that are in most need, but it's bonus enough to be insta-queued for duty I think.

Let's toss those that sit around and wait the longest a little extra exp or rewards please?

So you want to give a bonus to the role with the highest queue so more people join in as that role to increase the queue?

The fact you have to wait a fraction of the time to play as Tank and Healer (sometimes healer) should be reward enough. Toss us poor saps that sit around for 30 minutes to play our dragoon a bone here.

You can level up a crafting class or gathering class while you wait in the queue. A tank can't do it.

[waldo]

So you want to give a bonus to the role with the highest queue so more people join in as that role to increase the queue?

Yes, and no. If you think the 750gil bonus reward is going to cause a huge spike in queue times you most likely are dead wrong. Take the negative elsewhere, no real logic can support your claim that queue times will rise drastically.
I have i88 paladin and during the entire time playing I have never once joined a group thinking, 'Man, I better take paladin or I'll miss out on that extra gil!'
The argument of what the rewards are, and what they should be, is a separate one all together. Who they go to on the other hand, the reward should go to the person that has the hardest time getting a group, not the people that have the easiest.

The fact that you play a job you like rather than a job people need should be reward enough

I like paladin, I like bard, I like black mage; I also like pizza, and hot wings, and cold beer... I certainly do not want this combination every time I go out to eat though, there's nothing wrong with me not wanting the same thing every time I run an in-game instance.

[XNihili]

I like paladin, I like bard, I like black mage; I also like pizza, and hot wings, and cold beer... I certainly do not want this combination every time I go out to eat though, there's nothing wrong with me not wanting the same thing every time I run an in-game instance.

Well if you like to play Paladin, you don't need the bonus reward and you said 750 gils are not much.
Give them to me then every time you log as a Tank in DR

[ShadowDan]

I haven't seen a roulette go over 10 minutes in weeks now, as a Damage Dealer (mainly BLM and Monk these last few weeks). Queing for a specific dungeon takes somewhat longer (5 to 30 minutes) but it's still a huge improvement from before the roulette system was implemanted. I was used to 45 minutes being a quick queue during the first months of the game...