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  1. #161
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    Has anyone considered the possibility of classes that branch?
    I know it's a bit much to expect from them at the moment, but i was thinking each (or at least some) classes would unlock multiple job quests.
    For example: Conjurer reaches a designated rank which in turn opens up multiple job quests. This would allow a conjurer to then specialize by becoming either a Black Mage(by undertaking the black mage quest) or a white mage(by doing the opposite). Although i could see allowing both quests to be undertaken. You could then have one job use a radical and the other use a wand. Just ideas, but not a rediculous concept.

    Some job ideas
    Gladiator = PLD or Assassin(using daggers and learning to dual wield)
    Lancer = Dragoon(with pet) or Halberdier(lance + shield tank)
    Marauder = Dark Knight (unlocking specialized magic) or something that allows access to great swords

    there really are alot of possibilities if you think more FFtactics.
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  2. #162
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leenk View Post
    Has anyone considered the possibility of classes that branch?
    I know it's a bit much to expect from them at the moment, but i was thinking each (or at least some) classes would unlock multiple job quests.
    For example: Conjurer reaches a designated rank which in turn opens up multiple job quests. This would allow a conjurer to then specialize by becoming either a Black Mage(by undertaking the black mage quest) or a white mage(by doing the opposite). Although i could see allowing both quests to be undertaken. You could then have one job use a radical and the other use a wand. Just ideas, but not a rediculous concept.

    Some job ideas
    Gladiator = PLD or Assassin(using daggers and learning to dual wield)
    Lancer = Dragoon(with pet) or Halberdier(lance + shield tank)
    Marauder = Dark Knight (unlocking specialized magic) or something that allows access to great swords

    there really are alot of possibilities if you think more FFtactics.
    We have and they clearly stated that each weapon class will unlock 1 job only.
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  3. #163
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    Quote Originally Posted by Perrin_Aybarra View Post
    We have and they clearly stated that each weapon class will unlock 1 job only.
    At initial release yes, but they plan on making it more complex with time:

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...azine-Aug.2011

    Among other things:

    "Although the time is unknown, they are planning to have "combined job" which is obtained by two specified class over specified rank. For example, CON + THM = Red Mage."

    "In the future, not only jobs but also classes will be expanded."
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  4. #164
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    Quote Originally Posted by northernsky View Post
    At initial release yes, but they plan on making it more complex with time:

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...azine-Aug.2011

    Among other things:

    "Although the time is unknown, they are planning to have "combined job" which is obtained by two specified class over specified rank. For example, CON + THM = Red Mage."

    "In the future, not only jobs but also classes will be expanded."
    You are correct, but that is not what he suggested. He suggested one weapon opening more than one job. What is described in the interview is combinations of weapon classes unlocking one job, which is like FFT.

    The suggestion Leenk made are ok but even if he says "think of FFTactics", what he describes is more like multiple paths for one weapon class. FFT from what I remember is "combination of jobs at X level" to unlock another job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by northernsky View Post
    At initial release yes, but they plan on making it more complex with time:

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...azine-Aug.2011

    Among other things:

    "Although the time is unknown, they are planning to have "combined job" which is obtained by two specified class over specified rank. For example, CON + THM = Red Mage."

    "In the future, not only jobs but also classes will be expanded."
    Considering how things are going on i'm wandering if i'll still be alive when this is gonna happen...
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  6. #166
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    Quote Originally Posted by Perrin_Aybarra View Post
    You are correct, but that is not what he suggested. He suggested one weapon opening more than one job. What is described in the interview is combinations of weapon classes unlocking one job, which is like FFT.

    The suggestion Leenk made are ok but even if he says "think of FFTactics", what he describes is more like multiple paths for one weapon class. FFT from what I remember is "combination of jobs at X level" to unlock another job.
    Yeah I realize that, my point was that with time we will presumably have a more complex system than the simple 1class-1job that they plan to start with.
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  7. #167
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    Quote Originally Posted by northernsky View Post
    Yeah I realize that, my point was that with time we will presumably have a more complex system than the simple 1class-1job that they plan to start with.
    Yeah, I hope so as well. FFT type of job unlocker could be very fun.
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    Can a mothafucka get a Monk with kick attacks, counters, and a gi?

    That's all I want.
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  9. #169
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    Perrin is right, i had really just implied that one job with a single weapon unlock multiple classes. Either way tho, anything we say wont be changing the way this system is implemented initially, everythign will be "down the road."

    That said, with several classes having multiple weapon types, it would be cool to see a class split into seperate jobs with that in mind. With a sword, glad becomes pld. with a dagger, it becomes....

    It does sorta sadden me that each of the classes only have a single job to become, thus making ALL gladiators become the same things, essentially creating a "this is how you should play this job" mentality.
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  10. #170
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demacia View Post
    Can a mothafucka get a Monk with kick attacks, counters, and a gi?

    That's all I want.
    counters already there, but you have to actually do it manually. i would approve of some kicks and gi like garments, maybe when monk comes out.
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