So..Lets talk jobs?

[Sephr]

Necromancer exists in FFXI, so the "goddamn zam people" as you call em already have a basis for it being relevant to FF.

The lamia were an entire race of necromancers, I believe.

Random tangent: This game needs lamia. And they need to be an interesting part of the story, not forgotten like they were in XI :<

[Cairdeas]

Necromancer exists in FFXI, so the "goddamn zam people" as you call em already have a basis for it being relevant to FF.

Storyline =/= Playable. Besides FFV, Necromancers have been in most of the FF games as a generic mob.

[Elexia]

Storyline =/= Playable. Besides FFV, Necromancers have been in most of the FF games as a generic mob.

Summoner was a storyline entity before it was possible to be playable as was Blue Mage, hell the only instance of Blue Mage was a single "Show me respect, I am a blue mage!"

[Cairdeas]

Summoner was a storyline entity before it was possible to be playable as was Blue Mage, hell the only instance of Blue Mage was a single "Show me respect, I am a blue mage!"

Summoner was a Job in a huge majority of the games and Summoner was planned to be a playable job from the start. It was already programmed before ROTZ was released.

[_C-a-e-r-i-t-h_]

It has been a part of FF, but in FFXI Necromancer were to be added but they went with PUP instead for the cop out reason "We didn't want undead out in the day", ignoring that said undead exist 24 hours in Xarcabard, dungeons and whenever Besieged happens. Necromancer also has a very strong foothold in Tavnazian history and you even confront one who summons a reanimated Mannequin to fight you. It was also found in FFV (GBA), so it had a pretty big presence, but like summoning, it was always seen as forbidden magic, but players eventually got the ability to become summoners again.

Incorrect. The actual reason was that undead in FFXI vary in power pretty drastically whether it's day or night, so the Necromancer job would be entirely subject to the time of day being UP half the time and OP the other half. It was a balance issue that it never got out of the concept phase.

PUP's more unique, anyway. Glad they went with that instead of generic-ass Hot Topic customer I mean Necromancer.

Don't want to play the devils advocate but you forget the power of echo :P maybe a THM adventurer with that power can find a way to communicate with the dead.

Etiher way, I just saying that to play with you. I don't care about necromancer really.

Echo makes a more compelling case for Time Mage than Necromancy.

[Griss]

There are some very Necromacerish elements surrounding Thm in xiv's story. In fact one of the initial side quests revolved around a head of a Uldah family enchanting bobbles that would cause the owner to raise up from the grave and seek out others owners. Of course the whole thing goes comically wrong when the Creator of the bobbles is killed.

This is not to say that we would be given access to a "Job" focused in the direction of controlling undead. That's more in the purview of the "Bad guy".

[Bethor]

I'd like the part of the system which is used by ArchAge. They have 10 base attributes which can be combined. They'll have like 120 different jobs with different skill combinations. If that works with FFXIV is another thing.. but I can imagine that there will be some sort of advancing. Maybe a three level advancing? GLD > PLD > (insert uber jobname here). Like it'll need LV50 GLD to unlock PLD and then you have to level PLD from 1 to 50 and so on...

Leveling the PLD from 1 to 50 would assure that you learn/buy new skills during that time. I wouldn't like it if you could unlock a "title" and get new skills for that. So as Lvl 50 GLD you can be a LV50 PLD right away.

Maybe they can still work around the affinity stuff. Lets say you have level'd GLD, MRD and ARC. Combining a mixture out of those skill pools determine the new job and unlock better/newer skills.
At the moment we really have to be patient once again until more information are hitting us. ;(

P.S. I want my Blue Mage back :3 Hmm THM + PGL = Blue Mage!??!?!

[Molly_Millions]

Leveling the PLD from 1 to 50 would assure that you learn/buy new skills during that time. I wouldn't like it if you could unlock a "title" and get new skills for that. So as Lvl 50 GLD you can be a LV50 PLD right away.

Somewhere on these forums, one of the SE reps confirmed that if you get your GLA to 50, your PLD will also be 50.

[Elexia]

Somewhere on these forums, one of the SE reps confirmed that if you get your GLA to 50, your PLD will also be 50.

Sadly, yep. I honestly wouldn't mind an RO Rebirth/Renewal system if that's the case.

[Griss]

People are still in the mind set that a job is something other then a directed skill set with in a Class. Funny.