Why does Active Combat System get thrown away and yet Guidlleves get a second chance?

[Black_Rose]

doesn't take a genius to understand that the combat system takes priority over anything.
they can leave the old leves as they are and allways add newer and more entertaining ones or change the old ones if they feel like it.
i'm not gonna skip on content for another 5 months just because some ppl feel like the leves are boring.
go grind goddamn.

[Kafeen]

I don't get all this, I don't like this so it should be removed, attitude. If you don't like doing guildleves, the answer isn't to have them removed completely, just stop doing them. Then, those who do like them can continue.

They do have their problems, certainly, repeating the same few leves either because you choose to repeat the same few leves or just because of the limited choice to begin with. The same mobs being repeated from leve to leve. The same objective being repeated from leve to leve with new one introduced slowly.

That said, I'd much rather see the leve system built on, having more diversity added rather than removing it completely.

You compare it with the combat system but the combat system isn't being remove completely, merely adjusted. Parts of it will be removed, such as the stamina bar, other things will be added, such as auto-attack. Other changes are just adjustments for balancing.

Guildleves need the same treatment, remove things like failed leves being automatically given again and perhaps even the ability to change the level of the leves. Add new leves, new types of leves, new mobs, new locations.

Removing the main source of experience would be more akin to removing the combat system.

[Renshi]

First case scenario: Fixing Battle System first

Fixing Battle System: New Way to do Older Guildleves.
Enhancing the Guildleve system: New Way to do New Guildleves.


Second case scenario: Enhancing the Guildleve system first:

Enhancing the Guildleve system: Same way to do New Guildleves.
Fixing Battle System: New Way to do Older and Newer (by that time older) Guildleves.

Now guess which one is more effective =)

[Loth]

I don't get all this, I don't like this so it should be removed, attitude. If you don't like doing guildleves, the answer isn't to have them removed completely, just stop doing them. Then, those who do like them can continue

It's gifthorse, sorry, giftforce, it's just to rile somone up.

[Greencactaur]

I rather them to be removed completely from game. Theres never any grind groups going on because everyones doing leve's and doesn't bother grinding in the actual open world. :X

[Zanfire]

GL's like many systems in this game were decent ideas, that were piss-poorly done. i think they are fine, but not as a prime thing. I always thought is was going to be a side thing, meant for the casuals or the occasional quickplay. In the end they turned out to be the only solid way of gaining much of anything. They need to re-balance them, add new ways to grind, make camp grinding worth it and have them be what they should have been in the first place....a quickplay thats used on occasion.

If you want a comparison, compare it to FFXI's Fields of Valor. Its there to help out solo play and its (was) limited because they didnt want everyone to spend all their time doing it. It was useful enough for what it was, but not big enough to take away from the most productive way of leveling.

[BloodMage]

I agree. Random party play in this game is almost non-existent, except for behest, because of the leves that most people do solo. Imo, SE should remodel the levequests to promote party but still keep the solo play aspect of it, or just remove it and replace a much better content.