patch 2.2 turn 1-5 easier.....

[abzoluut]

Is it just me, or do many other people feel like SE rewards the casual gamer every single time. Now they will make turn 1-5 easier so people can start at turn 6 (available through DF as well!).

I do not mind the DF part since doing Coil in i80 + gear is rather easy except for maybe turn 5 if you have to pug it.

Why would they make it easier, does anyone have a clue other than "casual gamer" argument? It's very disappointing when a game, which already is quite easy, becomes easier......

[NintenPyjak64]

They've stated before that they will make dated content easier as harder content is released, Just look at Amdapor Keep

People who want a challenge can still be a step ahead, while old content will be reduced so that other people can clear it. I would bet a large majority of players have not cleared turns 1-5 yet. A lower difficulty is exciting news, while the toughest free companies can be challenged by new content like turns 6-9.

Don't forget Leviathan Ex to add to the difficult content (Hopefully it truly will be)

[Rufalus]

People who want a challenge can still be a step ahead, while old content will be reduced so that other people can clear it. I would bet a large majority of players have not cleared turns 1-5 yet. A lower difficulty is exciting news, while the toughest free companies can be challenged by new content like turns 6-9.

[Kurai_Miu]

Well there also removing the 1-5 lockout at 2.2 so free for all farm fest on that gear now it seems

[SpookyGhost]

This is how literally all MMOs work. New content gets introduced, older content gets nerfed. Welcome to the magical world of MMOs.

[abzoluut]

Yes you have a point. However, doesn't i80 + gear make the turns a lot easier? This will be kind of a joke to do Coil 1-5 in let's say i85 gear then automatically be ready (gear wise) for turn 6. I don't see the point in making the turns easier when they become easier because of Labyrinths' gear and people being like full myth nowadays.

It's just that there is no reward in doing 'hard' content since with a patch, the people who are a bit behind will get a huge boost thus being at the same content you worked really hard for to do right away.

[NintenPyjak64]

Yes you have a point. However, doesn't i80 + gear make the turns a lot easier? This will be kind of a joke to do Coil 1-5 in let's say i85 gear then automatically be ready (gear wise) for turn 6. I don't see the point in making the turns easier when they become easier because of Labyrinths' gear and people being like full myth nowadays.

It's just that there is no reward in doing 'hard' content since with a patch, the people who are a bit behind will get a huge boost thus being at the same content you worked really hard for to do right away.

It's not a matter of gear it's a matter of skill. I know players in full i90 who are godawful at their job and players i75+ who play WAY better then those i90s. Yes having better gear raises the bar on what you can do, but even T4 can be a royal pain if people don't know what to do for each phase transition

[abzoluut]

So isn't that what an MMO should be about. If you lack skill, well that's too bad for and you will be stuck on turn 1-5. Why bother giving them a boost when they will try to pug turn 6 and up with their 'skill' only to get stuck again.. Let them struggle and try to do better so they become better players instead of holding their hands..

[SpookyGhost]

It's just that there is no reward in doing 'hard' content since with a patch, the people who are a bit behind will get a huge boost thus being at the same content you worked really hard for to do right away.

Hope you enjoy your stay in MMO land!

[NintenPyjak64]

"Hardcore" players should at this point already be bored of 1-5 and there's actually quite a large amount of people who don't bother doing coil for one reason or another. Lowering the difficulty will allow people to experience more content then they have in the past, while the new content being released is still made difficult for the "Hardcore" players. The game isn't all about 1 demographic.

Personally, I enjoy this change. I can already do 1-4 easily and now I'll be able to get my last couple of WHM accessories and gear up my SMN/BRD much easier