Quote Originally Posted by Huntington View Post
The Greater Key of Titan is better than the Veil of Wiyu, and I'm not about to waste so much time on a bragging rights weapon like Relics are.
It's really hard to take you seriously when you say stuff like this. You lose 3 weapon damage, 2 determination and 37 spell speed. How exactly is Titan's weapon better? Unless you mean non-Zenith relic, in which case you just lose 33 spell speed, still, how is it better?


Quote Originally Posted by Huntington View Post
No heals, I'm focusing more on survivability and move variation. The Pet potency is a minimal loss, unless you want to factor in Spur, Enkindle does nothing basically for such a long cooldown, and that's all I have to say about that really.
Survivability from... what? What do you need extra survivability for, anyhow?

Pet potency amounts to a 2% DPS loss. Factor in Spur and Enkindle, and it's a little more.

Quote Originally Posted by Huntington View Post
Nope, I tested it and activated Spur and Rouse at nearly the same time since it was a full out attack for a few minutes time, since I'm not going to stand there for 10 minutes and do a test when no fights last that long really.
LOL, you're really ruining your credibility here.


Quote Originally Posted by Huntington View Post
I'd use Fester, switch to another attack like Ruin or Ruin 2, then Fester again, and rinse and repeat outside DoTs, and buffs like Raging Strikes and the like. Also had Swiftcast so I'd pop in a Shadow Flare on both classes quickly.

When I do more DoT damage on ACN than SMN, which is the main brunt of it's damage, it's not really a gimp much if at all. I've done comparisons several times, where are other's results?
Check the other thread you posted in earlier, I provided results.


Quote Originally Posted by Huntington View Post
It's pure opinion at this point from other people, yourself included. Summoner was my most used class after Dragoon in XI, and it's the opposite this time, I have a lot of experience with the class and mained Summoner for a decent amount of time. If I can clearly say that I've seen better DPS from ACN than SMN, then I'm serious.
It's not pure opinion, at all. It's kind of like, the exact opposite of pure opinion. Based on the other things you've already said in this thread, it's obvious you really don't know how to play the class, otherwise you wouldn't be so convinced of a false, biased reality.

I mean, it's cool you're trying to think outside the box and all, but the simple reality here is that you lose way more DPS than you make up with more cross-class skills, and the only reason anyone would ever play ACN is to be different. They aren't doing it for the damage.