Is there an unneeded hostility towards regular classes in this game?

[Huntington]

Um, the only relevant content in this game atm are the EX Primals and Coil. You haven't done EX Primals ... have you even done Coil?

And I would generally be interested in your DPS parses as ACN.

I've done T1 and T2 of Coil several times, one run of T3 yesterday, nothing beyond that, you need at least an item level of 80 for that I guess. I've only attempted Garuda EX, haven't found a party in dozens of runs that could do it, so as of right now I have 0 Wins and about 100 Losses or so, stopped keeping track.

There isn't much to tell about that, had it at 218 once a few weeks back, no tests since because I'm on PS3 and would need someone to do it for me.

[Megido]

Ok i'm just going to do a Dr.Phil here.

'And how's that working out for you?'

[BrandoH]

Base classes underperform compared to their job counterparts. Simply put, from the eyes of the serious playerbase, you're intentionally gimping yourself for no good reason other than fun (lol, what's that?).

[EasymodeX]

So, 33% less DPS than a SMN. Shrug. Brings the options of more heals. However, you would need 2 heal slots to maintain the same DPS.

E.g.:

tank, tank, dps, dps, dps, hybrid ACN, hybrid ACN, healer.

Not really a net benefit.

[whiskeybravo]

@ Huntington - have you tried out Scholar? The healer role is slightly different, but good SCH can contribute nice DPS courtesy of the ACN toolbox. Cleric stance swaps mind/int and provides damage boost, you also keep Aero from Conj. I think all of that would miss in the Coil due to no accuracy on gear, but outside of that it may be interesting for you. Just a suggestion.

[Hybris-Maenad]

Not bothering to repeat too much of what has already been said here, I'll just answer the OPs question.

No there is not any unneeded holtility towards regular classes in this game.

Any hostility encountered is fully justified by by the detraction from your jobs role (DPS) by any false sense of utility that you think can be found by playing your base class without it's soul stone equipped.

The piddly heal that second wind provides compares nothing to the added vitality of myth gear, your souls stone and using a lv.90 weapon.

Protect is already covered by another class and you have no use for it whatsoever.

IR and B4B come nowhere near leveling out your dps loss from not equipping your soul stone and using a lv.90 weapon.

Your silly test against a dummy doesn't account for the fall-off in dps you will generate by using your "utility" skills in battle instead of sticking to dps and avoiding avoidable damage.

If you can't give us a video, give us your rotations for both SMN and ACN for dps to back up your statement that the the difference is negligible. Otherwise, I'm going to just believe the endless stream of players here that have spent more time working out the math and testing than you spent in 10 minutes testing against another person.

You will ALWAYS encounter hostility from other people when you purposefully lower your ability to perform your jobs role in a party. It will be because your willful decision to under-perform your role is considered a hostile action against the group as a whole.

When you purposefully choose to under-perform your role you are at the same time demanding more dps out of your fellow dps, more time tanking from your tank and more time healing from your healers.

The only way you could possibly not grasp that your choice is hostile would be if you sincerely believed that your dps is better as a arcanist that cannot equip 90 gear or weapons (aside from what you can pick up in turn 1&2).

In that case, please provide your rotations for both roles so that we can compare the damage difference between the two.

When your pop into a forum and declare that everyone elses' math and testing are null and that your dps is the same with both setups, you will receive condescension until you can back up your statements with proof. Whether or not you perceive someones reply as condescending doesn't devalue their argument nor provide any backing to your own.

10/10 trolling, please continue.

[Kicoe]

For the record since you played FFXI, your thought about Arcanist is the same as wanting to go as let's say WAR/WHM (Warrior mainjob, White Mage as subjob) to an XP party. Result is the same, you'd get kicked asap or wouldn't even be invited. Same deal with endgame back then; people wouldn't waste an alliance slot on silly job combinations for AV, PW, Nyzul v2, Salvage v1 or whatever.

Your job is to deal damage, let the healers heal and play Arcanist while doing dailys or something.

[Allison_Starwick]

My original plan was to keep with Arcanist as well. I do not like to heal others, as I do not have the ability to keep an eye on everyone's health while doing other things. (ADHD....)

I was doing a dungeon the other day and a guy decided to tell me that I was just "gimping through the game" while not choosing to go another route with my class. Because of that, I did go and get summoner and I do like the summons/stat boosts I received but I do feel that I should have been able to be the arcanist without any kind of opinions, however kind or rude, thrown at me simply because I play a different way. I do enjoy summoner, as I said and I can see where that guy was coming from but I thought it was kind of nosey/rude of him to pipe up with that. I feel your pain! :3

[Assirra]

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Its not "nosey/rude" since you are not gimping yourself but also the whole group.
This whole "i play as i want" is nice and all but it has no business in group play where your action also affect other people. Get a group together that does want to do that kind of stuff but don't join a random group and expect for anyone to go ok with it.

[JetBrooks]

My original plan was to keep with Arcanist as well. I do not like to heal others, as I do not have the ability to keep an eye on everyone's health while doing other things. (ADHD....)

I was doing a dungeon the other day and a guy decided to tell me that I was just "gimping through the game" while not choosing to go another route with my class. Because of that, I did go and get summoner and I do like the summons/stat boosts I received but I do feel that I should have been able to be the arcanist without any kind of opinions, however kind or rude, thrown at me simply because I play a different way. I do enjoy summoner, as I said and I can see where that guy was coming from but I thought it was kind of nosey/rude of him to pipe up with that. I feel your pain! :3

You might be happier playing single-player games.