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    SE should start to sell gil officially as a solution to gold spammers

    With a reasonable rate, similar to Guild Wars 2, lots of people's excuse to buy from gold spammers is, "I don't have time to grind for money", or "grinding for money is boring"

    Now they'll have no reason to buy from gold spammers.
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    Only problem with that is when people start buying money like that it kills the economy and the rest of the players... Look at housing for instance... They put ridiculous prices on the houses when they first came out because of all the gil in the world... People that buy gil would make it unfair to everyone else and unfortunately legalizing it would have more people thinking its ok to do...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ed_N_Ants View Post
    Things people say....
    Not so much. You have a relatively small subsect of people who buy money in games. honestly you do. It's enough to be marginally profitable to RMT companies but not a large portion of the population. That isn't what kills economies, contrary to popular myth. Things like allowing somone to do EVERYTHING and be ENTIRELY Self-sufficient in an MMO kills economies, it's part of the reason the economy sucks here.


    Anyway to the op. Selling gil won't remove the RMT problem. It might reduce it, but they'll still be there sending you tells. What SE really needs to do is get tough about it. Ban accounts they find soliciting RMTs and accounts they find botting. Ban them permanently, first time, no exceptions. Give us a method to report spammers and bots straight from the chat and character windows, snap shot the last tell sent from the account being reported. It's seriously not hard to spot a RMT spammer's tells. Worried about people abusing the system? Ban the people who abuse it too. Once banned 24 hours, twice banned a week, third time, you're done too.

    This idiotic idea of, "Oh well we'll threaten our customers with harsh action if they participate in RMTs" doesn't work. It has never worked and it's anti-customer-service oriented. It's been at least 15 years and going now that people started farming in game currency and selling it online and it has never worked, they're still here. They're still selling. So save your breath on that business. No one feels threatened and obviously people are still buying. All you're doing with these actions taken against RMTs is just hurting your own profit margin.

    If you think about it, gil is their IP, it's part of their game that someone else is selling and making profit from. That's theft, that's piracy, why dont they take some of that DMCA muscle these companies like to throw around and start breathing down the necks of the ISPs of the twats that sell in game currencies? Contrary to popular belief RMT companies aren't all just sweatshops in Malaysia filled with asians who dont speak a lick of english. A lot of them are right here in the Western world too.
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    Last edited by Havenae; 03-19-2014 at 04:58 PM.

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    No.

    RMT are a plague in every game and they can't ever totally be rooted out. The only way a business will go under if there is no demand for their service.

    Offering gil directly from the game provider will turn this into a pay-2-win scenario and most of the players of this game will outright quit. Our subscription cost covers the cost of the salary of the people in charge of doing the investigations and banning of the RMTs. Let them keep fighting the good fight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orophin View Post
    No.
    Offering gil directly from the game provider will turn this into a pay-2-win scenario
    I dont agree, it wouldn't turn into a pay-2-win since most things important to win can't be bought, but, I agree it would kill the economy.
    No selling gil is a neddy no-no
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    Aren't people aren't pay to win with gold spammers anyways? I guess my point is people are gonna pay to win is gonna pay to win anyways, whether they are gonna buy from SE or RMT. The house won't have roaches and rats if there's no garbage for them to live off.

    Whatever SE doing at this time is obviously not decreasing the amount of /tell I'm receiving. I've got 200+ on my blacklist, and reported 170+ of them. That's the method SE told me to do, and so far 4 of them got their account deleted. I am tired of this outbreak, and I'm gonna give SE my ideas.
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    forget about Square selling gil...i can understand your point...but this cant happen and i think not going to happen...Square need to continue fight against the RMTs...and theres another way to do this..the RMTs even put the websites they are selling monney in the comment...the websites i think that Square needs to fight...its sad that RMTs exists...because they are very annoying and breaks the game...please Square..we're with you in this...put this guys down :/
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    Nope.

    Look what happened to diablo 3

    This game will turn into a pay to win
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