SE, Please fix this FC exploit

[Altiret]

Back before SE implemented activity logs for the FC chest our FC had all of it's gil stolen by a member. It wasn't an RMT - just a selfish thief. However SE's take on it was "you gave them access to the chest, and gave him the right to access the gil. You shouldn't have trusted him."

So I know first hand how this type of thing sucks.

I agree that you shouldn't be able to promote above your own rank - that would be the same as allowing someone to promote themselves.. (though if you can promote above your own rank, you probably CAN promote yourself.. I should try that.. )

However I don't think it's unreasonable to restrict promotion to a very small trustworthy group of people. It's not like you have to go changing peoples ranks on a daily basis. (I should also qualify that our FC is relatively small (<100) and for the most part we all know each other pretty well. So in fairness, if you have a very large FC, it might be different. )

[Talas-Wolvenfang]

This issue has been open for at least 1.5 years.
Can a Dev. or rep pls give status as to what's going on with the fix for this FC rank setting?

Thank you.

[Nadirah]

In FFXI you had no "Guildbank"

And read, not they where swallowed, they swallowed. They gave one of the newcommers a Rank 3 within their rank structure with his own rights, he somehow was able to promote someone to have full access to everything.

I know from WoW. If you were able to invite and promote, you were not able to promote someone over your own rank and you were not able to demote people with rank above your own.

As a guild leader in WoW, I can also set specific ranks to REQUIRE an authentication token as well. Either the software or keyfob will do, but if you don't have one you cannot be promoted to that rank, and if you remove it, you get auto demoted to the first rank that doesn't require it. In my case, it's the scrub member you can't do anything with the bank rank. My officers all required authenticators.

Only rank you couldn't do that for was Guild Master, but again, I had to hand that over manually, no one could promote to it.

[NatSilverguard]

imho, this is entirely the OP's (or the FC master's) mistake. Why, did you give a guy you don't know so much power over your FC? regardless of the current FC role mechanic, giving roles should be reserved to the people you trust and deserve them.

i hope SE will give back your gils, but if it is me, sorry i won't, you lots are too careless to take care of your own. i won't change a system that will benefit a lot more (to be able to replace an AWOL FC master/leader) than to handhold careless people take care of their stuff.

[Colorful]

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Did you even read the thread? In every MMO other than FFXIV the rank to promote someone above your own rank is an impossibility, how was the OP to expect that it was possible and to be robbed of 10million gil? Also I'm pretty sure you can't promote someone to FC master even with this system, you have to wait the 30(?) days of them being offline.

Regardless of all that, this thread is like a year old. The OP has probably made that gil back and infinitely more (if they're even still playing).

[ServerCollaps]

basically, there are only 2 ranks, master and everything else

theres no other ranking, you just have the option to give "everything else" some different names with individual rights but in the end its always on par with every other "everything else" which got the same rights

[AnimaS]

Threw in 15MIL on a house at 3.0 was robbed, but we put a bitch in charge and she stole it. whoever owns the house has the leverage. I admit it, i was robbed because we allowed her to have the power to do that.Master IS ALL.

[AnimaS]

Seriously if you give promotion/demotion to anyone as a rank ability you are asking for chaos.

[Sicno]

Wow... 1.5 years and this is still a thing. Their design decisions are really questionable.

[Moonleg]

Seriously if you give promotion/demotion to anyone as a rank ability you are asking for chaos.

In other games the rules usually are that you can promote someone up to the rank below yours.

In FF14 you can promote people to a rank above your own.

That is usually considered an exploit. Imagine if your supervisor at work could promote you to be his boss, does that seem right to you?