SE, Please fix this FC exploit

[KaiKatzchen]

Sorry for what happened to you and I hope you get, at least, your gil back.

But I do have a question which I'm kinda confused by:

we gave that FC's leader his own rank so he could form his coil static group.

Why did this guy need a rank just to form a coil static within your group? We have members that create coil statics and they don't need a higher rank given to them to do it. Just a little confused by this...

[Lumia]

Why did this guy need a rank just to form a coil static within your group? We have members that create coil statics and they don't need a higher rank given to them to do it. Just a little confused by this...

He wanted a rank to distinguish his group from other people in the free company. His rank was "Static Leader" and his static members were "Static Onions". (We use an Onion Knight theme for ranks).

I didn't think anything of it when we created the extra ranks. I have an alt character on another server who's FC has specialty ranks for crafting/gathering, and other random things.

But I digress, the point of this thread isn't about our failures... it's about fixing this so it doesn't happen to others. There are several people who responded to this thread that didn't know about this.

[Keith_Dragoon]

He wanted a rank to distinguish his group from other people in the free company. His rank was "Static Leader" and his static members were "Static Onions". (We use an Onion Knight theme for ranks).

I didn't think anything of it when we created the extra ranks. I have an alt character on another server who's FC has specialty ranks for crafting/gathering, and other random things.

But I digress, the point of this thread isn't about our failures... it's about fixing this so it doesn't happen to others. There are several people who responded to this thread that didn't know about this.

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My FC Also uses special titles as ranks for those I truly trust which has individual rights depending on how much I trust them. While I am sure none of them would screw me over my FC is also going through a merge with a FC that splintered off from us around launch and occasionally one of them gets promoted temporarily to a specialized rank to invite the mass of people coming in. I have it set up to prevent this kind of thing from happening but only because I was online when it happened and was notified by their FC leader as soon as he found out.

[DarkSeifer]

I'm one of the GM's of Dark Hour and the same thing happened to us, but it was when we first started saving up gil. We lost 1.3m. May not seem like a lot, but it really put a stop to our saving up gil for a while.

Someone joined the FC, got promoted up to the second rank, and withdrew all of our gil. He then left and deleted his character.

We were forced to change the ranks so that no one but the leader can withdraw gil, and no one but the leader can change rank settings.

Our first response from SE was that this was basically our fault for trusting any member with promotion privilages.

Our second response said that this bug should be reported on the forums. But either way, we were told that there would be no way for us to get our gil back.

Our third and final attempt, I was told that it would be brought to the attention of the developers and I would get a follow up later on. Nothing was ever done or followed up on.

I hate to compare this... but in WoW once we had an issue where someone stole gold from our guild, and within an hour we had it all back and every item too. I was hacked and had my gold stolen from my personal character and it was replaced within 20 minutes.

This is not something that is "working as intended" and it is not the fault of any FC. This is an issue with the hierarchy system in this game that lets members promote above their own rank. This is SE's fault and them not replacing the gil stolen due to this ovesight is complete bs.

/rant

[DoctorPepper]

I would like to see this fixed as well, obvious major design flaw that shouldn't be considered "working as intended". This is the second time I've heard about this happening, the first time I heard about it was in game and that FC lost something like 85 mil, don't think they ever got it back either.

[Randelmire]

85M !!?? God... I think I would rage quit, unsuscribe and throw my computer through the window.

[Vilhem]

I hope they fix this and ban the moron -_-; The guy already had a sort of bad rep among pugs (I didn't have a good experience with him either).

[Ninix]

It is incredibly stupid that the Promotion/Demotion permission allows someone to promote themselves beyond their current rank. Like, mind-bogglingly stupid.

That being said, I don't think you're likely to get any help from Square Enix, unfortunately.

[ErikMynhier]

That's why the only one allowed to promote/demote should be the Master.

[Tashigi]

Ow.
Sucks that happened to you.