SE, Please fix this FC exploit

[Gethyn]

I think the point was, it was a merge. They gave the new leader less power than all the other officers, but enough of a rank that he could set up a raid team (which, to my understanding, is what he promised them.) New lower-rank officer then accepted, and promoted the gilseller-named account to regular officer, or fc master status, that account stole all the money, and then presumably transferred it somewhere and deleted itself.

This was not the original guild's fault. It is unfortunate, it shouldn't have been able to happen, and the guy that pulled it off is a scumbag. The point of this thread is not so that we can blame the original fc for setting their fc up in a reasonable way, but that we can be aware there is a problem, and that morally ambiguous individuals will use it to scam people.

And really. Since when do we decide that the actions of a thief are without blame, and we need to instead blame the people he stole for being stolen from? Come on community, you can do better.

[Randelmire]

I think the point was, it was a merge. They gave the new leader less power than all the other officers, but enough of a rank that he could set up a raid team (which, to my understanding, is what he promised them.) New lower-rank officer then accepted, and promoted the gilseller-named account to regular officer, or fc master status, that account stole all the money, and then presumably transferred it somewhere and deleted itself.

This is exactly what happened.

The "RMT looking character" was promoted to rank #2, which is an officer with almost all rights. (Used for months only by the master's wife)

[Lumia]

Thanks Lude for translating this into French for us
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...er-dans-les-CL

If anyone is capable of translating this to other languages, please let me know.

[princesst3a]

And really. Since when do we decide that the actions of a thief are without blame, and we need to instead blame the people he stole for being stolen from? Come on community, you can do better.

^This. Like. What is up with some people? There's a flaw in the FC rank design that someone exploited under the FC leaders' noses. That's all this is about. Not what they could've done to prevent the theft from happening. What is up with the victim-blaming?

I reeeeaaally hope you guys can get this resolved somehow, some way. I can't even imagine losing that much Gil and what work it took to accumulate it. ;; good luck.

[Krokov]

Sounds like the player you promoted is/was working together with the RMT. With a name like that how could anyone think it wasnt. It does suck that that happened to you guys. Not sure what else I can say then what's been said. Sell and save hopefully you some reimbursement for what was stolen.

[AyaneKiwara]

I noticed this on release as I was able to promote others above my rank no my alt. I thought it was horrible design, but never considered it would be used to do this. I always lock gil removal to guild leader only, but I am paranoid.

It is absolutely shameful that SE will not offer you any help. I hope you get your items restored by someone who actually cares about the community that is still invested in playing their game. Those people should be taken care of as their numbers are getting smaller and smaller.

Yeah, I noticed it at launch as well. A few people have invite/gil withdraw rights too, but those are people I've known for 10+ years. I do hope this gets changed either way

[comander21]

yea same thing happend to my fc. they really need to fix this

[Lumia]

Sounds like the player you promoted is/was working together with the RMT. With a name like that how could anyone think it wasnt. It does suck that that happened to you guys. Not sure what else I can say then what's been said. Sell and save hopefully you some reimbursement for what was stolen.

While I thought maybe it was RMT related, I don't think it was. The "RMT" looking name has thought put in to it to confuse the reader with the use of I and lowercase L's along with combinations of v's and w's. Most RMT names I've come across are random button mashings of letters on the keyboard or randomly generated names using the naming conventions.

I think this is just some punk kid and his punk friends running scams on people.

[Arkista]

Sounds like the player you promoted is/was working together with the RMT.

Just because the name looks like the crap RMTs come up with doesn't mean it is. Most likely the person who promoted the guy who stole the items/gil are the same person.

[Noshpan]

This is most unfortunate, OP. I hope it gets rectified. I honestly never knew it was possible to promote someone to a rank higher than your own (I've played in games where you couldn't promote characters to the same rank as yourself unless you were the guild leader).

I will be passing this information along to the FCs my Miqo'te are in. (My other 6 characters are not in FCs.)

SE needs to stop assuming that all the players will behave and not screw other players over.