SE, Please fix this FC exploit

[Lemon8or]

As a FC Master I once promoted someone else to Master because I was going to be away for a while. It lets me do it because I am the Master, I assume. There can indeed be only one Master at a time, when I accepted the promotion, it made that person the Master and lowered my rank to the lowest possible one. Now I'm just hoping there isn't some weird issue that could let someone else than the Master promote someone to Master.

I tried it a few weeks ago and only Master can promote someone to Master rank. It's still messed up either way OP. I hope you get your gil back. In my FC, I think the leader saw this problem a while ago so now only 3 of us at the highest ranks have the promotion perk.

[Cegiana]

Hate to say this, but as a FC owner myself, I see the blame 100% on the FC owner, how can you own a FC and not have super restrictive rules on withdrawing and promotions? With my FC, others can only deposit gil and nobody else can promote anyone. Chest 2 & 3 are completely turned off and chest #1/crystals are deposit only. Plus I don't allow gil to be contributed unless its a leader/RL friend. With these rules, my FC has been setup months ago to make sure things like this dont happen. Sucks that you had to go through something that was completely avoidable if the owner did his/her job correctly.

[cearka]

that...is a big exploit.

thanks for spreading awareness of it so other FC's can insulate themselves from this.

[ArkhamNative]

The leader, myself, and another 2nd in command have sent in player abuse/RMT tickets and have only gotten copy and paste responses back. Part of that response states that they can't do anything about it because "it is working as intended" and that if we want it changed to post on the Lodestone.
We are going to try the STF next to try and get our gil back.
The person who did this is still hopping from FC to FC to try and scam them. He begs to be given permissions which will allow him access to their FC chest.

Of course this is a flaw. And of course that person is a thief that needs to be banned. And your savings should be returned to you.
You know there will be others who either will try this, or realize they already have that privilege and will drain the FC dry, slowly or quickly. SE needs to put something in place ASAP to prevent this.
I'll warn people I know. And I hope you'll respond to /tells requesting names and more information. (I understand why SE doesn't want names posted forever in public.)

[Kat_Manx]

Hate to say this, but as a FC owner myself, I see the blame 100% on the FC owner, how can you own a FC and not have super restrictive rules on withdrawing and promotions? With my FC, others can only deposit gil and nobody else can promote anyone. Chest 2 & 3 are completely turned off and chest #1/crystals are deposit only. Plus I don't allow gil to be contributed unless its a leader/RL friend. With these rules, my FC has been setup months ago to make sure things like this dont happen. Sucks that you had to go through something that was completely avoidable if the owner did his/her job correctly.

I wonder if people who reply like this even read the post? :/ It was super restricted. It's a flaw. If the flaw wasn't there, no harm would have come to this FC.

[Traek]

I hope this gets fixed for you guys, and money returned. Really a bad system to allow such a thing.

[PArcher]

I wonder if people with these replies even read the post? :/ It was super restricted. It's a flaw. If the flaw wasn't there, no harm would have come to this FC.

Except it wasn't super-restricted.

There are 5 possible ranks...why should someone with the middle rank be able to promote? It just doesn't make much sense to me to allow that; yay, you can promote from rank 5 to rank 4! Why?

I personally don't think anyone under rank 2 should be able to promote, but that's just me. I also wouldn't allow anyone I don't know and trust to have promotion powers in the first place.

Allowing someone new to have promotion powers just doesn't seem right to me.

[Lumia]

Of course this is a flaw. And of course that person is a thief that needs to be banned. And your savings should be returned to you.
You know there will be others who either will try this, or realize they already have that privilege and will drain the FC dry, slowly or quickly. SE needs to put something in place ASAP to prevent this.
I'll warn people I know. And I hope you'll respond to /tells requesting names and more information. (I understand why SE doesn't want names posted forever in public.)

I will be happy to share via /tell or you can also check out the Balmung facebook page for names and additional screenshots of the FC activity log from when this happened.

[Greed]

Except it wasn't super-restricted.

There are 5 possible ranks...why should someone with the middle rank be able to promote? It just doesn't make much sense to me to allow that; yay, you can promote from rank 5 to rank 4! Why?

I personally don't think anyone under rank 2 should be able to promote, but that's just me. I also wouldn't allow anyone I don't know and trust to have promotion powers in the first place.

Allowing someone new to have promotion powers just doesn't seem right to me.

If it work normally -> than third rank can only promote to fourth rank -> not to second rank
(It's like supervisor can choose who become general manager....)

edit to save daily post number -_-

I said it before, if you read the thread, that it should work that way...but then you get the situation in the quote, where you can only move them from rank 5 to rank 4...which then...why bother?

to move members from casual to raider.

But...allowing a newcomer such power is a bad idea, even if its just for rank 5 to rank 4. Chances are, they also have dismissal powers, and can really do a number on your lower-ranked members that way.

if it work normally (normally like in common sense) than it should be no problem to give new raid leader such power

[PArcher]

If it work normally -> than third rank can only promote to fourth rank -> not to second rank

I said it before, if you read the thread, that it should work that way...but then you get the situation in the quote, where you can only move them from rank 5 to rank 4...which then...why bother?

But...allowing a newcomer such power is a bad idea, even if its just for rank 5 to rank 4. Chances are, they also have dismissal powers, and can really do a number on your lower-ranked members that way.