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    Aegic's Avatar
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    Aegic Roske
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    My friends and I tested this a bit a long ways back. When we created our own FC as the leader I simply only gave myself the ability to withdraw gil. Only me and 2 of my Executors can promote or demote and I trust them. Even if they did try to screw the FC over they could only take items from the chest, and we don't really keep high dollar items in there so we would be out of a few million at most. our 24+mil would be able to still fund events, raids, and other things. NOTE: Also make it to where only trusted members can mess with airships too. Those things get to the point to where their parts are expensive.
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    Zeon Darksol
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    What needs to be done about this is basically when a person is invited they get the lowest rank with nothing.

    They cannot promote the player for 10 days. That's how it should be.
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    Darkobra Kage
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeonx View Post
    What needs to be done about this is basically when a person is invited they get the lowest rank with nothing.

    They cannot promote the player for 10 days. That's how it should be.
    Heists like this are clearly planned. On the 11th day, it will be executed. This solves nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkobra View Post
    Heists like this are clearly planned. On the 11th day, it will be executed. This solves nothing.
    It does solve it, because it's not SE's job to make poor decisions in anyones Free company, the leader is stop giving the power to promote to others.

    Also the power to invite. That's what the application is for if someone wants to join they will, I don't know how many times when i didn't have a FC someone kept tossing me random invites, because you want the FC to be full take a page out of FFXI and have 1 leader its their job to keep things in order not SE's.

    All you can do is ask SE to make some fixes and they aren't going to overhaul the whole FC if something sounds great they might consider it.

    Though as I said its up to the leader and trust me stop having your members invite and then putting full access to everything that is on you. poor decision making.
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    Shannon Dawn
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    Moogle
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    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Zeonx View Post
    It does solve it, because it's not SE's job to make poor decisions in anyones Free company, the leader is stop giving the power to promote to others.

    Also the power to invite. That's what the application is for if someone wants to join they will, I don't know how many times when i didn't have a FC someone kept tossing me random invites, because you want the FC to be full take a page out of FFXI and have 1 leader its their job to keep things in order not SE's.

    All you can do is ask SE to make some fixes and they aren't going to overhaul the whole FC if something sounds great they might consider it.

    Though as I said its up to the leader and trust me stop having your members invite and then putting full access to everything that is on you. poor decision making.
    It solves nothing, if you think you can spot all scammers in 10 days, then that's a fixed image. Crime can be organized even in games, and it isn't always arranged by a bunch of it idiots. The same things would happen, only after a 10-day delay.

    It is also SE's fault for implementing a broken system. While we can argue that "you shouldn't give X person ANY rights unless you REALLY trust him", promoting above your own rank is an absurd possibility that should not exist. I feel like this is not even an intended feature, but SE is too lazy to go and rework code so that you can't promote above your own rank.

    I'm gonna quote myself for silliness here. I don't know how anyone can agree with a system like this.

    Quote Originally Posted by ShaneDawn View Post
    Wow. That's like me being a small section chief of a big time company, hiring my frand and then promoting him as the CEO of the whole outfit. We take the money, run, and no country officials think there's anything wrong with the system....

    Crazy stuff!
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    Last edited by ShaneDawn; 09-21-2015 at 09:26 PM.

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    As a side note, if you go into PF and try to warn people about FC robbers, YOU are the one that gets in trouble. The FC robber can report you for public slander, and then YOU are the one that gets temp/perma-banned (based on previous offenses). Clearly SE is trying to promote FC-robbing as a legitimate activity.
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    Zeon Darksol
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShaneDawn View Post
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    So you are saying that inviting them and it having it auto set them to no access to anything won't fix it?

    How so?
    the 10 days where your officers cant promote them to anything else to see how the person is wont work?

    I don't see how it wouldn't, I mean they wouldn't be able to take anything and well you don't have to promote them its your choice and if you make a bad one and they rip you off then you shouldn't give GIL access or access to the community chest to begin with.

    Or stop putting stuff in the chest all together, How about lets ask SE to remove the chest all together bam there is your fix.
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    J'karr Nbolo
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    Seems like a lot of trouble to go through just to get 10m Gil. What a scumbag.
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    Rashi Shadowblade
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    Shiva
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    Machinist Lv 60
    Wow. Just wow. As the leader of a small FC, please fix this SE, because there is clearly a ranking order within the menu that you can set. If it is only for the purpose of organizing the ranks for listing purpose, then that is HIGHLY misleading....
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    Quote Originally Posted by TouchandFeel View Post
    Strangely enough, if you assume the OP is from a parallel universe, it all makes sense.
    ...
    That or they are just spouting gibberish.

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    Chrillix Khross
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    Hyperion
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    Armorer Lv 80
    I would seriously question the person who did the promoting, regardless of the issue of promoting above your own rank. Seriously, that players name didn't throw up any red flags?
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