SE, Please fix this FC exploit

[Lumia]

Just wanted to keep people informed that this exploit still exists. I just tried it today with my own characters.

I made a new rank called "3rd" and gave it promotion/demotion permissions. It is in the 3rd position of hierarchy.
I then changed my alt "Chariots Chariots" to 3rd, and my other alt, Kibbles Katze, to a rank below 3rd, Star Onion.
From there I logged onto Chariots Chariots and was able to promote Kibbles Katze to Onion Knight, which is the 2nd in command position. (You can't promote to master).

[Maleha]

I'm leader of my FC and I actually didn't know that people could promote above their rank. Then again we are a medium sized fc of ca 120 people, only me and my officers have promotion privileges. And only I have access to the money in our chest and only me and the officers have full access to the 3rd tab in which we store rare mats. I was thankful to the heavens about patch 2.1 which introduced the "deposit only" permission and the chest log. Before that, me and the officers had full access. But 1 Officer turned out to be a douche, went behind my back, stole 200.000 before leaving the fc with a bunch of others from our core. Those were housing donations he and a another quitter had given but donations are bloody donations. If you take it out without saying, it's theft. I'm hoping for more options to make taking out crystals more limited, like a maximum of 100 per day or such. That would be helpful.

[necrosis]

Wow. SE still has done nothing about this?

[Anapingofness]

I knew about this issue but... wow, it really sucks that this happened to you.
I really hope that they make it so that you cannot promote above your current rank.
And I certainly hope they do something about your situation.
"Working as intended" is a copout and they know it. -_-

[Amelia_Pond_Behemoth]

I wasn't aware of this issue until tonight. I recently moved to Balmung to join my friends in the FC they're part of and also made new friends. My FC leader is aware of the exploit and his officers with promote privileges used the exploit for more benign purposes. FC leader was at work. So one of his officers promoted another officer to a rank with access to withdrawals in order to purchase the house.

[Lumia]

I wasn't aware of this issue until tonight. I recently moved to Balmung to join my friends in the FC they're part of and also made new friends. My FC leader is aware of the exploit and his officers with promote privileges used the exploit for more benign purposes. FC leader was at work. So one of his officers promoted another officer to a rank with access to withdrawals in order to purchase the house.

And that right there is how all our gil was stolen... =/

[LalaRu]

Until this gets fixed, I'd suggest the only rank able to promote needs to be the one right after Master.

[necrosis]

Until this gets fixed, I'd suggest the only rank able to promote needs to be the one right after Master.

Be careful of the "master swapping" bug as well.

[Avarghaladion]

Wasn't aware of this... got hit by it recently.. SE doesn't seem to care or won't do anything about it. GMs are left powerless, and devs don't even seem to want to acknowledge it. These are the offered solutions:

a) Hope 35 days pass without the person logging in.
b) Hope they don't steal/sell everything.
c) Hope they give control of your FC, house, and chest back... worth potentially hundreds of millions of gil.

If someone were to do the stuff from b) SE won't do a damn thing to them. According to GMs, they have no power to change what the development team views as "FC politics."

[Avarghaladion]

Sorry for the double post. 1000 characters is pretty slim.

Until this gets fixed, I'd suggest the only rank able to promote needs to be the one right after Master.

I'd advise against this. This is exactly how my company got in the predicament we're in now. I kept promotion priviliges to rank 1 to totally prevent all possible abuse and then got caught by the rank swap bug ^.

The only way to be safe is to make a mule or two, set them to rank 2/3, and give them promotion priviliges. Handle ALL promotions via the mules, or at least through a trusted officer. Never ever ever let rank 1 promote/demote people as there's just no way to be sure you won't wind up bugging them to lead of the FC.