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  1. #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra View Post
    You will in any case, at best, perform as well as a player using MNK optimally without macros. Macros will never give you an advantage. they may make something easier for you - thus them being called a crutch.

    Yes, it is entirely possible in specific instances to perform equally well. Theoretically, priority macros are cool because like you say they appear to be equivalent to simply pressing the buttons yourself.
    However, there are things such as server lag, latency, etc to consider. When you hit your macro button it goes through line by line. Sometimes latency leads to one or more of the lines being skipped. This can even be the last line, which may be the one you're trying to hit. So what do you do? You spam the button. Each time you hit the button though, the macro is attempting to go through multiple lines.

    In a real raid environment, even if in isolated cases, such macros can regularly lead to slight delays in when your command goes through and activates your GCD skill. This means skills coming out slower. This means lower DPS.


    Like I said, priority macros or macros that bunch together off-GCD skills do not make or break one's DPS. On the average scale, it won't appear to be much if even noticeable. However, due to the existence of these very real risks and situational errors, simply having a direct command entry for each skill will always be the safest, and thus anybody able to perform optimally without the use of macros will always be a step ahead.
    the goes through line by line..... happens at the millisecond rate you will never be able to truely messure the time it cant skip but 1 skill in my macro and they only usable in stances. it will always use the GCD skill first and ONLY ever use the OFF GCD skill after it uses a GCD skill i have never ever had it skill a GCD skill and use the off GCD skill, the way my macros are set up it cant fail by skipping and using a wrong skill because the skills are linked by stance and or GCD/offGCD. so spamming my macro in a raid enviroment actully opens me up for less mistakes. and skills actually fire off faster because i do not have to travel between hotkeys to fire off 2 stance skills and off GCD skills and the off GCD skills fire perfectly in time with animation lock ending and my gcd skills fire Perfectly after the off gcd animation lock. macros do make things easier they make them more effecient. now i wouldnt use macros for any other class skill rotation because they are combo based and cannot be used like a monk macro can be and will always be loss of dps.
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  2. #42
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mailstrum View Post
    it cant skip
    I'm going to need to make some more popcorn.
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  3. #43
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    Noctis Umbra
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    It does in fact skip Mailstrum. Not intentionally. Just as a communication error between server and client - especially when spamming the button while you happen to get a small lagspike.

    I've used the macros - tested them. I don't need an in-depth explanation. While it perhaps is less risky to use the Snap:True and Demo:Twin macros with MNK than similar, GCD based macros on other jobs, it is still risky. However small the risk, it still exists. It is very real, and it has happened not only to me during the brief time I tested them, but to countless others.

    The ultimate point is, you are always at your most optimal, both in terms of increasing performance and decreasing risk, when not using any macros.
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