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    Where is the AI?

    Is there any AI in this game?

    Everything, EVERYTHING is scripted. *Mob gets to x hp, does x move*

    Pets, trash, bosses, npcs.

    If they could add AI to this game, it would make a very interesting mmo, for one, no mmo has any type of AI that I know of. So, is there any plans on adding some AI to at least trash and bosses. Bonus if pets got AI, interaction with you and the world and had different personalities. This is a P2P mmo right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ErBear View Post

    no mmo has any type of AI that I know of.
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    Eve Online Does
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zozorozo View Post
    Eve Online Does
    Yeah, not a big fan of point and clicking. Thought, that's cool one mmo has AI, hopefully more mmos come out with AI.

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    No EVE online doesn't.

    And this must be your first video game...or first mmorpg.

    Boss fights are suppose to be like that, this isn't an action game where you need good reflexes to survive its an RPG where you need to learn the mechanics to survive.

    Yeah the mob AI could always be better but then, mobs are not suppose to get people stuck...you spend a short time killing mobs and most of your time in these games in dungeons and raids (or crafting/gathering)

    Yeah super intelligent AI would be nice, but then too many people would get stuck on a lv3 lady bug who takes advantage of the fact that you are level 1 and it knows you just got a quest to kill them and are weak and new to the mechanics, so they gang up on you or trick you into targeting a teant or something...and now your a level one getting screwed over by an unholy alliance of lady bugs squirrels and mushrooms and you just want to....well you get the point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StrangerousDangerous View Post
    No EVE online doesn't.

    And this must be your first video game...or first mmorpg.

    Boss fights are suppose to be like that, this isn't an action game where you need good reflexes to survive its an RPG where you need to learn the mechanics to survive.

    Yeah the mob AI could always be better but then, mobs are not suppose to get people stuck...you spend a short time killing mobs and most of your time in these games in dungeons and raids (or crafting/gathering)

    Yeah super intelligent AI would be nice, but then too many people would get stuck on a lv3 lady bug who takes advantage of the fact that you are level 1 and it knows you just got a quest to kill them and are weak and new to the mechanics, so they gang up on you or trick you into targeting a teant or something...and now your a level one getting screwed over by an unholy alliance of lady bugs squirrels and mushrooms and you just want to....well you get the point.
    this made me giggle
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    Quote Originally Posted by StrangerousDangerous View Post
    No EVE online doesn't.
    http://www.eveonline.com/retribution/upgraded-npc-ai/
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    Quote Originally Posted by StrangerousDangerous View Post
    Its still a completely different game and its still dumb as rocks. They only made their dumb AI less predictable.


    This doesn't make the point any less moot.

    Actually, it's not about "less predictable". There are actually routines in place that prioritize (and maybe more importantly RE-prioritize based on events) targets based on actions and capabilities.

    For example, sleepers will focus fire on the same target; they WILL target repping ships; they WILL kill your drones;they WILL seek to get to and stay at, their max effective ranges...etc. I don't want to be presumptuous, but it sounds like, aside from reading the provided link, you don't have any real experience with worm hole sleepers.

    To summarize, and to ensure this is not taken as a provocation, EVE AI is leaps and bounds over most of the current MMO fare.

    Finally, WTB FC "Ladybugz Rool" - give me your exploited, over farmed masses, fellow NPC's, lend me your Sword!
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    Quote Originally Posted by StrangerousDangerous View Post
    Its still a completely different game and its still dumb as rocks. -snip-
    How dare you call Advance Excel Doc 3 a dumb as rocks game!


    (that's sarcasm folks)
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    Quote Originally Posted by StrangerousDangerous View Post
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    The AI should be progressively smart... And you don't need to be an action game to have ever changing fight with unpredictability. X mob does this, you react to it by doing that. Simple as that, you don't even need to be an action game, you can be a turn based game and have smart AI. Mobs that react to what you do and you react to what mobs do. Would make a very fun game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErBear View Post
    The AI should be progressively smart... And you don't need to be an action game to have ever changing fight with unpredictability. X mob does this, you react to it by doing that. Simple as that, you don't even need to be an action game, you can be a turn based game and have smart AI. Mobs that react to what you do and you react to what mobs do. Would make a very fun game.
    Give me an example of how you want to mobs to react. Because for me, you are the one who should be reacting in a mmorpg.
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