Need some help setting up Monk macross!!!

[Arkista]

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Unless something has changed since I tried to use macros for MNK at launch the /wait rounds up. And that is a huge DPS loss. Don't get me wrong I'm not trying to say all macros for all jobs suck but for MNK it does.

I'm not a numbers guy but I think you have to have GL3 and like 500+ Skill Speed to get down to like 2sec on skills. I don't focus on Skill Speed for my MNK, I use to but found out it was wrong.

As for the Macros rounding up. Lets say skills @ 2.5sec I could get 20 skills off in 50 sec, Or if I used a macro which will round up to 3secs, I could get 20 skills off in 60secs, that's about 4 more skills I could get off. Now factor in Skill Speed and Greased Lightning which can get you close to 2secs, Marcos are still going to round up regardless of your Skill Speed and GL. Don't know how many more skills you could pump out compared to using macros, but that to me seems like a big DPS loss.

And the reason I wouldn't want to link Shoulder tackle or w/e to another skill, Is because I could lose GL if something triggered, Be in a fight where stunning is important (ifrit) and then over stun, But I guess you could take it off if you prepare yourself. I just wouldn't want to take the chance to lose GL because of a skill triggering.

[Sigred]

When you practice with bad habits, you are practicing to become better at being bad.

[NoctisUmbra]

Unless something has changed since I tried to use macros for MNK at launch the /wait rounds up. And that is a huge DPS loss. Don't get me wrong I'm not trying to say all macros for all jobs suck but for MNK it does.

This is where you've got the wrong idea. Macros that involve using the /wait command, or attempting to make use of multiple GCDs in any way are a significant DPS loss and would fall under the scope of "entirely poorly written".They are massive crutches, do not help one get better at their job at all, and as you clearly pointed out they come at a heavy cost to one's DPS.

The macros in question are macros that attempt to put multiple Off-GCD skills or buffs together, or take advantage of the priority order in a macro to combine 2nd or 3rd form skills such as Snap Punch and True Strike together into a single button - button saver macros.

While still being bad, they aren't make or break.

[Burritoboy]

I agree with you and I liked how you pointed out how mercy stroke is a tactical disadvantage when you need burst dps. However, that being said I don't see how having shoulder tackle in my macro would put me at a disadvantage because I use controller and if I have to run away from the boss for any reason to avoid an AOE but need to get SP or Demolish off b4 my stacks drop I can Shoulder tackle and then Press whatever in the same button.

[Mailstrum]

Unless something has changed since I tried to use macros for MNK at launch the /wait rounds up. And that is a huge DPS loss. Don't get me wrong I'm not trying to say all macros for all jobs suck but for MNK it does.

I'm not a numbers guy but I think you have to have GL3 and like 500+ Skill Speed to get down to like 2sec on skills. I don't focus on Skill Speed for my MNK, I use to but found out it was wrong.
As for the Macros rounding up. Lets say skills @ 2.5sec I could get 20 skills off in 50 sec, Or if I used a macro which will round up to 3secs, I could get 20 skills off in 60secs, that's about 4 more skills I could get off. Now factor in Skill Speed and Greased Lightning which can get you close to 2secs, Marcos are still going to round up regardless of your Skill Speed and GL. Don't know how many more skills you could pump out compared to using macros, but that to me seems like a big DPS loss.

And the reason I wouldn't want to link Shoulder tackle or w/e to another skill, Is because I could lose GL if something triggered, Be in a fight where stunning is important (ifrit) and then over stun, But I guess you could take it off if you prepare yourself. I just wouldn't want to take the chance to lose GL because of a skill triggering.

you dont have to use a wait command with monk macros if you make them correctly because skills are based on stance so you a can do a priority macros based on that mechanic.