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    Player
    Emonik's Avatar
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    Emonik Feraal
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    Behemoth
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    Marauder Lv 58

    Cure Macro craziness with the new Fix

    The macro I used to heal in Raids and Fates with was
    /ac "Cure" <mo>
    /ac "Cure" <tt>

    This did exactly what i wanted it to do. I could heal party members with <mo> and then either tab around enemies healing non-party members, or stay targeted on the Boss and if he changed targets i could easily heal without having to try and click in a mass of bodies.

    Yesterday's patch killed that macro. Now if i don't have a <mo> then it heals my <t>, if that is invalid it heals <me>. In other words, the first line of a Cure macro will always be satisfied, and never go to the second line.

    Ok so no big deal, I can adjust. So i changed my macro to just
    /ac "Cure" <mo>
    This works mostly the same as you can mouse over target's target health bar and it works as an <mo>

    Now this is where the craziness starts. If i have a valid healing target, here is the behavior of casting /ac "Cure" <mo>

    1. If my mouse is over nothing, Cure is cast on my <t>
    2. If my mouse is over a valid target, Cure is cast on my <mo>
    3. If my mouse is over an invalid target(enemy, npc, out of range target), Cure will be cast on <me>

    Scenario 3 is what makes no sense to me. Why <me> and not <t>?
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    Oulan Bator
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    That's what every whm spell does if your target is invalid: it is cast on yourself.
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    Aria Placida
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    Lamia
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    Ninja Lv 88
    Quote Originally Posted by Nalou View Post
    That's what every whm spell does if your target is invalid: it is cast on yourself.
    Then that should be happening in scenario 1 as well. If the mouse is over nothing, the <mo> should resolve to nothing, which is invalid, and by your logic should then cure the player. Instead, it's being cast on <t>. Presumably, scenario 3 has a valid <t>, but an invalid <mo>; and the macro is instead resolving to <me>.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridiana View Post
    Then that should be happening in scenario 1 as well. If the mouse is over nothing, the <mo> should resolve to nothing, which is invalid, and by your logic should then cure the player. Instead, it's being cast on <t>. Presumably, scenario 3 has a valid <t>, but an invalid <mo>; and the macro is instead resolving to <me>.
    In scenario 1, you mention cure is cast on your <t>, so you do have a valid target.
    If your target was a monster or something you cannot cure (like in scenario 3) then the spell would be cast on yourself.
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    Emonik Feraal
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nalou View Post
    In scenario 1, you mention cure is cast on your <t>, so you do have a valid target.
    If your target was a monster or something you cannot cure (like in scenario 3) then the spell would be cast on yourself.
    OK I get your point, even if i think it's a bit counterintuitive. So i change the macro to

    /ac "Cure" <mo>
    /ac "Cure" <t>

    The macro still resolves with the same 3 scenarios.
    In scenario 3 instead of going to the next line and healing <t> it still defaults first to <me>.
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    Denzel Taru
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    Ragnarok
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    Arcanist Lv 51
    Quote Originally Posted by Nalou View Post
    That's what every whm spell does if your target is invalid: it is cast on yourself.
    yep, exactly why my pet macro didnt work how i wanted it to.. i wanted to spam embrace while DPSing in less healing intensive areas.. so i made this macro:

    /micon "Ruin II"
    /ac "Ruin II" <t>
    /ac "Ruin II" <tt>
    /pac "Embrace" <t>
    /pac "Embrace" <tt>
    my plan was that i could target mobs or the tank and still ruin something and embrace the tank..

    Logic of the Ruin:

    check first instruction
    valid target? yes - cast
    valid target? no - check second instruction - cast

    but unfortunately the logic of this macro on the faery is:

    check first instruction: <t>
    is that a valid target? yes - embrace the target
    is that a valid target? no - embrace self (faery)

    so the macro still works as i intended it to do if i basically choose one or the other.. so.. if i wanted to target the tank it would be


    /ac "Ruin II" <tt>
    /pac "Embrace" <t>
    and if i wanted to DPS mobs without targetting the tank it would be
    /ac "Ruin II" <t>
    /pac "Embrace" <tt>
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    Wild Galax
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    Sargatanas
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    exacly the same problem, they messed it up for me as well. why fix something that isnt broken, now if they dont fix it i may have to fully change how i heal since even in fights im finding myself self healing myself instead of the target i want which i never experienced before.
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    Jelica Lolic
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    Tonberry
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    Archer Lv 50
    I am in the same boat. My macros don't work how they did. As mentioned; if their isn't a <mo>, it reverts to <me> than <f>/ Grrr.
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    Lafiel Abriel
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    Tonberry
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    Meh, i'm old skool, I don't use <mo>
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    Iymala Vayle
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    Cactuar
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    Conjurer Lv 53
    I have not found any issues with my <mo> macros. Granted, I never used <t> or <tt>. I keep the boss targeted and just use simple mouseovers to heal. Yes, if someone is out of range it will default to you, but that just makes you more aware of your party. Not really a bad thing.
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