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    "ready check" spam trolling during primal fights

    never read the update notes , but my first and only impression with the ready check feature was the worst possible.

    joined a DF garuda HM fight for relic , someone kept spamming frequently "ready checks" during the whole fight putting popups on my screen and distracting the whole group from the fight which ulitmately had to lead to fail, i couldnt even tell who it was because its anonymous , im sure this kind of player behaviour wasnt considered when designing the feature , but it needs attention and a fix soon in my opinion
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    It gets abused in CT too. Not just before fights, but constantly during everything.....
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    same was happening in CT on bosses.

    Great idea to add, but should lock out that ability once engaged.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash20 View Post
    same was happening in CT on bosses.

    Great idea to add, but should lock out that ability once engaged.

    This is the best method. Once anyone in the party/alliance has engaged, the option for RC is grayed out.
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    It simply needs to be adjusted so only party leader can use it nor allow it to be used when the party is engaged in battle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velhart View Post
    It simply needs to be adjusted so only party leader can use it.
    why assume a party leader would not exploit the feature ? it needs a smart redesign to not allow abuse , but im not payed to come up with solutions for this so i let the devs find some solution , hopefully it gets attention soon
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmnesiaHaze View Post
    why assume a party leader would not exploit the feature ? it needs a smart redesign to not allow abuse , but im not payed to come up with solutions for this so i let the devs find some solution , hopefully it gets attention soon
    I also added not in battle either. However, the biggest problem is that someone who is anonymous doing it, you don't know who to vote kick. If the leader is abusing it, you know who to vote kick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmnesiaHaze View Post
    why assume a party leader would not exploit the feature ? it needs a smart redesign to not allow abuse , but im not payed to come up with solutions for this so i let the devs find some solution , hopefully it gets attention soon
    If the party leader is only able to do it, then we'll know he's abusing it so we can initiate a vote dismiss
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    Quote Originally Posted by GalaxyGirl View Post
    If the party leader is only able to do it, then we'll know he's abusing it so we can initiate a vote dismiss
    although its a workaround indeed to kick if you know the person doing it, its not solving the abuse problem itself, its better not allowing it in first place
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velhart View Post
    It simply needs to be adjusted so only party leader can use it nor allow it to be used when the party is engaged in battle.
    The problem with this method is, when entering any dungeon/raid party leaders get all mixed up. The person who started a party, or is leading doesn't get it in the instance. Also there is always people who just don't want to lead, and will nullify the ready check's good use. I'm not against this method if party leaders are kept when entering instances, though alliances will be another hurdle, especially with DF. One way to accomplish the same thing.. Just add who initiated the ready check to the box.. Easy to vote kick the troll. The same should be done for the vote dismiss feature.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nukocafe View Post
    Dear SE: Ready checks should not be available to use once battle has started. It should only be used BEFORE anything aggros anyone.

    (Why wasn't this obvious thing implemented again?)
    This I totally agree with, and it is the easy fix for this. Not sure why SE would allow it beyond the engagement.. defeats the purpose of a ready check. I'd hope people are ready if you are fighting, and if not it will be quite apparent before a ready check can even be initiated.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nukocafe View Post
    Also the ready check should have at least a 6-7 minute cool down so people can't spam it over & over.
    Noooo not at all. Though "spamming" is annoying, the engagement canceling it is best. People do legitimately need to know before 6-7mins whether or not someone is ready or back. Sometimes its coming back from a 5min break to just test to see who from your group is back. Then you do another in 30sec. or a 1min when someone says they are back, etc. Then there can be one for when you know people are back, and want to actually know who is ready for the engagement.. etc... It is actually a good thing to have around, and players will see the benefits when trolls are able to be dealt with.
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