Dear YoshiP, please stop misusing the word "raid".

[Benediction]

Um, this isn't WoW? Why must we adopt their terminology?

I can safely say that everyone here pretty much knows this isnt WoW.

SE needs to stop being that weird loner kid and start fitting in with the rest of the class (ie. MMO scene).

[Renshi]

He could've called it Operational Warfare, that'd be the same.
And anyway, that's what he calls them, Raids. Military tactics missions.
Purposes of Raids:

• to demoralize, confuse, or exhaust an enemy
• to ransack or pillage a location
• to obtain property or capture people
• to destroy goods or other things with an economic value
• to free POWs
• to kill or capture specific people
• to gather intelligence.

And thank Wikipedia for their informations.

I am thinking as raid is contents that requires strategy

So, nothing wrong with it.

[Benediction]

He could've called it Operational Warfare, that'd be the same.
And anyway, that's what he calls them, Raids. Military tactics missions.
Purposes of Raids:

• to demoralize, confuse, or exhaust an enemy
• to ransack or pillage a location
• to obtain property or capture people
• to destroy goods or other things with an economic value
• to free POWs
• to kill or capture specific people
• to gather intelligence.

And thank Wikipedia for their informations.

So, nothing wrong with it.

Except "raid" is being used as an idiom by everyone else and using a dictionary wikipedia term is irrelevant.

Just shows how out of touch this company is in terms of its contemporary terminology.

[Renshi]

So if I call my friend Richard Dick then that means he's not called Richard even if he's called Richard and get offended because I called him a d*ck.

[KaiKatzchen]

I can safely say that everyone here pretty much knows this isnt WoW.

SE needs to stop being that weird loner kid and start fitting in with the rest of the class (ie. MMO scene).

Except "raid" is being used as an idiom by everyone else and using a dictionary wikipedia term is irrelevant.

Just shows how out of touch this company is in terms of its contemporary terminology.

Ok the 'word' in question aside...

So first you say that SE needs to stop being the loner kid and fit in with every else (I.E. be like all other MMOS)

Then you say they are using something that is used by everyone else and that shows how much the company is out of touch?

...So you want them to be like everyone else but not use the same terminology to be like everyone else? Wha?!

The above like, counteracts itself, so had me totally confused...

Also...

You do realize that ya'll are bickering back and forth with each other over a WORD right?

Next thing you know someones gonna make a thread about "How Dare SE call this game a MMO, other games use the term MMO!! SE didn't use it first!"

Ya'll don't think this is a little silly and counterproductive to fixing the game? Who CARES what he calls stuff, as long as the game gets FIXED! It's called examples people, using a well known term to explain something so people understand and get the point is not a crime, I promise.

[Wolfie]

You people are giving me brain cancer.

It doesn't f'ing matter what word they use. Yoshi pulled a term from western MMOs to describe the act of completing instanced dungeons. Who cares if he's not fully "correct" in his definition of the term? Who cares if 'raid' means something completely different in WOW? NONE OF IT MATTERS. It's simply a word that's used to describe one type of content -- 4-8 player instanced dungeons -- in the same way "assault" was used to describe 3-6 player instanced dungeons in FFXI. They could have used a different word, they could have used no word, WHO CARES?

Will you give it a rest already?

[NoMX]

Umm, first off, it's called jargon. Most communities and professions have certain terms they use exclusively that don't make sense outside of their own personal little box. The term raid is gamer jargon, it is also a real word... but that's how a lot of jargon works to begin with. Since I'm in the business world and I've studied mostly business and computers I'll give a few examples of jargon I'm personally used to, and all of you probably are too:

-Ping. Well, you all should know what ping is since you're gamers... Computer jargon.
-Cookies. You quite obviously aren't going to be eating these, as they're virtual tidbits of data that store info about you and the websites you visit.
-Axed. Business jargon... Typically meaning getting fired.
-Gofer. Somebody who "Goes for" an item you need. Basically, your servant in the business world.

So, spouting the definition of the word raid means absolutely nothing, because gamers are not using it in that sense. Raid is, plain and simple, gamer jargon. Think of it like the use of the words gimp, buff, kiting, mob, build, raping, boss, camp, dots, and hots. All of those terms have a different meaning depending solely on whether you're a gamer, or not. This is jargon. And thank god for it, because "raping a boss" would be a very bad idea IRL. Especially a mob boss.

That being said... Raid = gamer jargon for a very large group of players attempting to navigate an area and kill a boss or multiple bosses. Thus... All of you saying a raid is a military term are right, but no gamer uses it the same way. It's jargon. Kiting sure as hell doesnt mean any of us frolic in a field with a kite... We're much too fat and lazy for that.

That all being explained... Idc what they call them, but i'd prefer they chose a different name. FF11 always had unique names for their raids (Dynamis, limbus, salvage, etc). Why can't FF14? It was half the draw, to me. The fact that FF11 broke free of the typical naming schemes.

[Akira_Tenshi]

Who cares!? Dungeon, raid, does it matter?

[AngryNixon]

"Raiding parties" have no minimum member requirement. One man can do "raiding", i.e. "I just raided my room mate's fridge".

Did it drop a sandwich?

[Drogyn]

If the use of the work "raid" is all we have to care about then the game is in better shape than I thought! I mean come on guys seriously?