Dear YoshiP, please stop misusing the word "raid".

[Laughlyn]

kk, kinda off-topic but wth is up with all these "sky-Blue" my lil ponies i seen in a few ppl's sigs?

This the new EPIC FFXIV mount?

Anywayz, instead of argueing about "Raid or no Raid, why not come up with
a better / more suited word for the FFXIV dunegon raiding?

[AngryNixon]

kk, kinda off-topic but wth is up with all these "sky-Blue" my lil ponies i seen in a few ppl's sigs?

This the new EPIC FFXIV mount?

Anywayz, instead of argueing about "Raid or no Raid, why not come up with
a better / more suited word for the FFXIV dunegon raiding?

All the cool kids are doing it, I blame Wolfie.

[Airlea]

raid -

1. A surprise attack by a small armed force.
2. A sudden forcible entry into a place by police: a raid on a gambling den.
3. An entrance into another's territory for the purpose of seizing goods or valuables.
4. A predatory operation mounted against a competitor, especially an attempt to lure away the personnel or membership of a competing organization.

This isn't an issue with MMO terminology. It's English. Do you speak it? It's certainly not Yoshi's native language, yet ignorant people want to argue semantics with him. Fantastic.

[Enfarious]

Not cause I want to beat this dead horse but I really can't help myself.
Raid is a word, it has many meanings and wasn't born nor will it die in WoW or any other MMO for that matter.
SE has and will most likely continue to set the standard for what a good RPG is, so what if there were a few bumps in the road.
WoW is a clone and has had many clones made of it. That WoW began a trend that 10~15 year olds caught onto isn't surprising, very little work/effort for rewards is what kids like.
FFXI at it's peak saw more active players not WoW's, "Hmm think I need another account to try this other race ... it's only my 15th one." growth pattern.
Anyway use "Raid" any damn way you see fit, lead, don't follow, be the trend setter you've always been.

Thankyou S.E.

[Seirra_Lanzce]

this thread is a fail.

[giftforce]

I think you guys are missing the point.

Yoshi has two options.

1. He could call these instances by any name he likes.

or

2. He could call them raids which are an industry-related term denoting a specific iteration of large-scale instances.

Using option 2 even if the instances aren't in agreement with the general application of the term makes people question the logic. SE either needs someone to explain why raids aren't the appropriate term, or they quite simply need a thesaurus.

And do we really want FFXIV to descend into another cliche MMO? We already have "quest-hubs", wasn't that horrible enough? Now we must adopt the term "raids" too?

These are weighted terms in the MMO community and I don't really like them. For FFXIV, I feel they make the gameworld too unoriginal and generic.

Aren't we supposed to be moving away from copy-pasta? Now we're actively encouraging it?

Ironic.

[Naylia]

1. He could call these instances by any name he likes.

Like...a word that matches the content as per it's definition.

Or maybe like "Auction House" we should let the "industry" completely mangle another word beyond it's meaning.

[giftforce]

Like...a word that matches the content as per it's definition.

Or maybe like "Auction House" we should let the "industry" completely mangle another word beyond it's meaning.

What's so great about "raid" though?

Why would one choose to use a weighted-term like raid when there are other words available at one's disposal?

[Shyd]

What's so great about "raid" though?

Why would one choose to use a weighted-term like raid when there are other words available at one's disposal?

I still think hootenanny would be better term.

[Renshi]

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Excuse me, gentlemen. Could you tell me why the ongoing thread is still discussing about a manner of using words that the crowd could not care less than a cup of tea? I believe monsieur Yoshida has the rights and the good reasons to use some terms.

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WOULD YOU SHUT THE F*CK UP ABOUT A TOPIC THAT NO BODY WOULD EVEN F*CKING SH*T ON IT!? IF YOSHIDA CALLS THEM RAIDS THEN LET HIM F*CKING DO IT!

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Herpitaderpy? DERPITAHARRDERP RAIDS REDDERPARRAHURR!