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    吉田氏:
     そこ は,レイ ドという 単語の捕 らえ方だ と思いま すよ 。例え ば「 WoW 」(World of Warcraft)のレ イドっ て5人,10人 のやつ がある 一方で,20 人越えの やつは「 そんな に人を集 められ ないよ」 って寂 れてい たり,完全 にハード ゲー マ ーコンテ ンツ化し ていま す。「EQ」(EverQuest)から 始まっ たよう な,レイ ド=大規 模 PvEって捕 らえ方 ではな く,攻略 性の高い コンテ ンツ, と 僕は考え ていま す。
    YoshiP: That depends on how you take Raid, for example in WoW there are Raids that are for 5 players, 10 players, and also 20+ “Hard to get that much people” type of stuff. Stuff for hardcore gamers. I am thinking as raid is contents that requires strategy, unlike EQ (EverQuest) raid=large-scale PvE.
    I don't have a problem with Yoshi-P reinventing a word, but my problem does lie with the fact that he incorrectly understands how it's used in WoW.

    In WoW:

    5 man = Dungeon
    10/25/40 man = Raid

    And in WoW, dungeon difficulty is not the same as raid difficulty. Both require strategy, yes, but raids are more highly coordinated efforts. Dungeons are shorter content for more casual players and a means to get to endgame. Raids are endgame progression.

    I had believed that in FFXIV, there would be a similar correlation. That 4-mans would be like 5-man dungeons. And that 8-mans would be like 10-man raids.

    Perhaps this just means that all instanced content will require an equal amount of strategy. I'm not blowing a gasket about it, but he must understand that this choice of terminology for all instanced content will confuse some players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rowyne View Post
    I don't have a problem with Yoshi-P reinventing a word, but my problem does lie with the fact that he incorrectly understands how it's used in WoW.
    haha, I just have to quote this because it's the funniest thing I've seen someone say while still being serious. Sorry Yoshi-P, Rowyne thinks you're cloning WoW wrong.

    So, just so we're clear, Yoshi-P is using the word the way it is supposed to be used. WoW people have a different understanding of the word and think that the way it is supposed to be used is wrong. I do think this is the winner of 'Epic Thread of the Month - June 2011'
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    Là á Bhlàir's math na Càirdean.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gun_Anam View Post
    haha, I just have to quote this because it's the funniest thing I've seen someone say while still being serious. Sorry Yoshi-P, Rowyne thinks you're cloning WoW wrong.

    So, just so we're clear, Yoshi-P is using the word the way it is supposed to be used. WoW people have a different understanding of the word and think that the way it is supposed to be used is wrong. I do think this is the winner of 'Epic Thread of the Month - June 2011'
    Oh, look, another troll who resorts to insults when his argument is weak and based in nothing but opinion. How original.

    "Just so we're clear" *rolls eyes* If Yoshi-P draws from an example in another game (like he specifically did in the quote in the OP), yet fails to understand that example, then that is indeed an error on his part that could affect the game.
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    Last edited by Rowyne; 06-28-2011 at 04:54 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rowyne View Post
    Oh, look, another troll who resorts to insults when his argument is weak and based in nothing but opinion. How original.

    "Just so we're clear" *rolls eyes* If Yoshi-P draws from an example in another game (like he specifically did in the quote in the OP), yet fails to understand that example, then that is indeed an error on his part that could affect the game.
    Too bad you got an unofficial translation. What if his meaning was "something, but not exactly like WoW"? Then what?
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    Prolly live in their mommy's basement playing the game 23/7.

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    =.= if i read correctly..........................................

    Yoshi P wanted to use another term for Raid in future zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seirra_Lanzce View Post
    =.= if i read correctly..........................................

    Yoshi P wanted to use another term for Raid in future zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
    Hah, you guys have done it again =D
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renshi View Post
    Hah, you guys have done it again =D
    They Took the Word(s) Epic Fail to a whole new level....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    They Took the Word(s) Epic Fail to a whole new level....
    Epic Fail... OMG are you referencing a WoW Epic Weapon!? You piece of &^%*!

    In all seriousness though, whatever the hell these THINGS are going to be called, i will enjoy these THINGS and adapt to whatever the community starts calling these THINGS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuru View Post
    Epic Fail... OMG are you referencing a WoW Epic Weapon!? You piece of &^%*!
    I don't play WoW, so I have no clue whatcha talking about =)
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    Makes me wonder what an epic /facepalm would be like O_O would it hurt?
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