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  1. #71
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    TheHomieData's Avatar
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    Pike Incredibro
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    Gilgamesh
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    i'm not sure if anyone else is encountering this problem, but my ps3 problem goes much broader than this.

    since the implementation of patch 2.16 i am quite literally unable to even intentionally buffer my commands. this goes beyond simply switching hotbars.

    if i use the R/L2+R/L1 cycling method, so long as the next button i press [we'll call this button "Q" which may represent any of the potential cross hotbar buttons] is imput within (what appears to be) a window of about 5-7 frames of when i released the last button, the game defaults to one of 3 options:

    1) simply does not recognize the imput of Q at all
    - this occurrence becomes far more prevalent if the most recently released button was L1/2 and i then attempt to use a skill on the cross hotbar related to R2

    2) will recognize Q as the intended imput, but will function independently of any sort of on-screen indicator (i.e. i may hold R1 in an attempt to bring up my cross-hotbar "catalogue" and pressing the intended button may even bring me to that customized hotbar, however, there will be no indicating sound, and no change in any on-screen graphics to confirm that the game has received my imput)

    3) interprets Q as the simultaneous imput of Q+the most recently released R/L button.
    ^this.one.is.crippling.


    the end result of all this: as of this patch, i am consistently dropping my GL3 stacks in t5 as a MNK and it will happen before we even begin DPSing Twintania


    >>>>> unrelated to the blatantly obvious problem we have with hotbar "cooperation,"
    ~ repairing equipment now necessitates having to wait for everything to load correctly within your on-screen field of vision. this is extremely problematic for me as a ps3 user of this game. as, despite having exited the mender/merchant's window, i will be struck and frozen in place until everything on screen loads.
    ~ dismounting certain mounts will leave you frozen, in air, until the loading process of processing everything on screen is done, similar to the repairing-freeze.

    please, please do something about this.
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    Last edited by TheHomieData; 02-21-2014 at 07:50 PM.

  2. #72
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    Seryl199's Avatar
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    Delferia Seule
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    Siren
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    Still no word on when this fix is coming? At least give me a time frame? As someone who plays daily I'm hoping this doesn't take too long.
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  3. #73
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    Felis's Avatar
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    Skadi Felis
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    Ragnarok
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by UMiahNaweh View Post
    Either you only use one hotbar, or you don't notice it because you are slow. It is affecting most people and it IS gamebreaking.
    Or he have a macro in some of his crosshotbar slots that switch to another cross-hotbar without problems.
    I did it while leveling Arcanist. And do it with other classes as well because I find it easier and faster.
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    Last edited by Felis; 02-21-2014 at 08:29 PM.

  4. #74
    Player Riv's Avatar
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    N'aivir Alexaire
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 70
    i've kind of gotten used to it but it still sucks. i have to be very deliberate and fast with my action use as soon as i hit the trigger and then instantly let go. Doing it like this, i've been able to still switch hotbars and get an off gcd ability done and switch hotbar again to be ready for another action when gcd is just becoming ready again.

    but yes please fix it soon. it actually seems harder to play my drg than pld like this.
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  5. #75
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    Elendil_Voronda's Avatar
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    Elendil Voronda
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    Hyperion
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    Same problem for me yesterday, I´m WAR on Titan X, so I switch a lot between tanking stance and DPS stance (turning on or off Defiance) and this bug was causing me a lot of troubles .

    I usually have my tanking skills on onw crossbar and the DPS skills in other, so was a nightmare.
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  6. #76
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    Lemon8or's Avatar
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    Lemon Nate
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    Leviathan
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Definitely gave us quite a bit of trouble in turn 4 last night. I adapted but my healers and other tank didn't so it's annoying nonetheless.

  7. 02-21-2014 10:46 PM

  8. #77
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    Bizant's Avatar
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    Bizant Frost
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    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by joshsecret View Post
    *long post*
    I'm struggling to understand what you mean but I'll explain what I've done and hope it answers the question that I think you're asking.

    Seems like you have actions on 3 crossbars, which I do too, but maybe only combat actions on 2 of them. What I've done to get around this bug is to set the L2->R2 AND R2->L2 combos to show the right side of my 2nd crossbar. That gives me access to 1 1/2 cross bars (totalling 24 actions) without using the buggy switch button. That's all the actions I need in combat. So now I have very easy access to all my combat actions without needing to switch with a buggy R1 button.

    If you need 32 actions, or 2 full cross bars, just program L2->R2 to the other side of your 2nd crossbar from R2->L2.

    Outside of battle, tabbing between crossbars is not bugged, as far as I can tell, so any social/transport actions you have on your 3rd crossbar are accessible in the same way you're used to accessing them.

    EDIT: Oh hold on, I think I see what you're asking. Do you mean, is it possible to register a crossbar to display with the L2+R2 combo that doesn't appear in the crossbars you tab through by clicking R1? The answer is yes. In Character Configuration (I think) you can select which cross bars are available in certain stances. So for example I disable my social cross bar when my weapon is drawn, which means if I tab through my cross bars with my weapon drawn, I will not see the social cross bar. I believe I would still be able to access that cross bar if I registered it to the R1+R2 combo.

    So here's what you do. Set up a cross bar (any cross bar, let's say #5) as you want to see it when you use the R2+L2 combos. In your Character Configuration window (I think), disable that cross bar (#5) from both stances (weapon sheathed, weapon ready). I'm pretty sure you'll have access to it when you use the R2+L2 combo, but won't ever see it when tabbing through your cross bars.
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    Last edited by Bizant; 02-21-2014 at 10:59 PM.

  9. #78
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    joshsecret's Avatar
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    Character
    Pep Per
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Bizant View Post
    i heart u
    though i wish it was that simple. it seems every time i try to enable a bar to be able to set certain skills, that bar will remain static on my tabbing through the bars i normally use.

    for the love of... fix this!!!!!
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  10. #79
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    Haledire's Avatar
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    Haledire Nodire
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 50
    To limit tabbing through only 2 bars, you can go into Character Config - Hotbars - Cross (tab) and at the bottom of the list is 2 sets of hotbar checkboxes for "Set Selection"


    Using this setup, R1 will only cycle those bars you have selected (in this picture in particular, this means in and out of combat I only cycle 2 bars: 1 and 2)
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  11. #80
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    Bizant Frost
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    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 60
    Joshsecret, I think you can actually solve all your problems. See the post above this for instructions on how to disable certain cross bars.

    And if you only need 2 crossbars in combat, you can actually set it up so that you don't need to tab through anything. In Haledire's screenshot above, the top section (Extended Hold Controls) is how you can bring up a second complete cross bar without ever needing to tab.

    Of course, if you don't want to learn a new system and just want the old R1 tabbing to work, you'll have to wait for the fix. I can totally understand that. I like the old way, and think they should hurry the hell up with the correction.
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