How to make tanks more fun to play (devs please read)

[Surian]

I hate to say this, but a LOT of Paladin i know simply stopped playing the job after they (unjustly) gave Warrior a near-godlike buff when a slight correction would have been sufficient and gave Paladin nothing except a poop-smeared middle finger.

There's your problem why you have so few tanks now. SE made half of them stop playing.

[XNihili]

You're missing the point.
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You better believe if you had a character who had some trademark FF attacks there would be some of them that say, "I have to roll a tank for Riot Blade / Omnislash / Renzokuken ".

Ok. Let's pretend. Let's pretend that they change the name of the abilities. Will it be more fun ? More fun to look at an icon with Omnislash written above it and look at an ability that doesn't look like Omnislash at all (was Omnislash a PLD ability anyway) ?
Protip : make a macro with the name Omnislash on it with the ability you want.

I hate to say this, but a LOT of Paladin i know simply stopped playing the job after they (unjustly) gave Warrior a near-godlike buff when a slight correction would have been sufficient and gave Paladin nothing except a poop-smeared middle finger.

There's your problem why you have so few tanks now. SE made half of them stop playing.

What are those god-like buffs that make Warrior so much better than Paladin ? In most case, my Paladin is doing better (in damage mitigation) than my Warrior with about the same equipment. I would really like to improve my Warrior tanking and ride the flavor of the month.

[Versiroth]

What are those god-like buffs that make Warrior so much better than Paladin ? In most case, my Paladin is doing better (in damage mitigation) than my Warrior with about the same equipment. I would really like to improve my Warrior tanking and ride the flavor of the month.

I agree with you. My PLD is ilvl 80 and my Warrior ilvl 81 and I normally roll the Paladin. Honestly, I wish they'd buff warriors a little more. Maybe roll the SE effect into Butcher's block so we don't have to rotate so many combos and then make IB and Holmgang last 10 seconds. Speaking of Holmgang, I'd also like them to make it to were the damage you deal during it's duration is given back to you as 200-300% HP once the effect ends. The only Paladin buff I'd like to see is a threat modifier added to Circle of Scorn so our AOE threat is on par with warriors. As is, spamming Fast-Riot-Flash is boring as heck. Oh, and maybe add a move that combos off of Riot Blade so we have an off tank rotation other than RoH combo.

[C-croft]

I hate to say this, but a LOT of Paladin i know simply stopped playing the job after they (unjustly) gave Warrior a near-godlike buff when a slight correction would have been sufficient and gave Paladin nothing except a poop-smeared middle finger.

There's your problem why you have so few tanks now. SE made half of them stop playing.

And those tanks are just... bad. And hurt. Funny thing is, PLD is still a better tank by a slight margin....

[eagledorf]

And those tanks are just... bad. And hurt. Funny thing is, PLD is still a better tank by a slight margin....

Indeed, PLD has just as much potential to be crazy overpowered as they did pre 2.1. They gave WAR unreasonable buffs so that they're both about equally overpowered now (just different).

Anybody who thinks the WAR buffs gave PLD the middle finger has never done t2-4 through party finder where some people will only take Paladins. If I make a party finder myself for these turns and allow WAR, the tank slot(s) fill(s) almost instantly.

Simple way to look at the math for Halone is that combo Halone is as much hate as three not-combo Halone. That means that all the hate generated by Fast Blade and Savage Blade in your first two GCD are extra hate you did not get by spamming Halone.