Need Help with Death Sentence

[DantedmcVII]

What is the best way to go about making sure the tank doesn't die to death sentence or the following melee attack (I play scholar).

Currently I spread my virus and e4e on cd for seperate DSs, but our group hasn't really coordinated a rotation. When the actual death sentence occurs I try to time a adloquium(when is the best time to start casting adlo) or lustrate for as soon as it lands, but sometimes the tank dies even with full hp.

Does Galvanize need to be up on the tank for every incoming death sentence assuming they are at full hp? Should I be using adloquium as my go to spell instead of physick even during downtime to keep shield up as much as possible?Should I be using my stacks on soil or save them all for lustrate?

Any sort of help would be appreciated, thanks.

[Anova]

Any Death Sentence can potentially one-shot a tank. Any form of damage mitigation you can throw on it will be useful. The tank should be saving all their CDs for handling DS. If they're still getting oneshot, it might be better to get some more i90 gear and vit food.

Assuming you have all the gear and everything, I personally find myself using adlo more than physick on this fight. Adloquium should be cast before the death sentence begins casting as it takes a small window of time for the barrier effect to actually register. The same obviously applies to virus, sacred soil, and e4e, which have even longer time lags until they are effective. Stoneskin apparently can be cast before or after death sentence though. if you can throw up an adlo every time before a ds, it will improve survivability.

Use sacred soil or lustrate at your discretion. The point though is that the tank should never be taking a ds without some form of defense buff. If your tank can't get enough buffs on them, a soil might be enough to keep him alive. Essentially, if you have an unused aetherflow stack, feel free to throw a soil down.

There are also some timer mods that track death sentence among other things (divebombs, conflag, etc) you can use. I can't recommend any specific program yet, although the keywords to search for them are "twintania timer death sentence mod". Because DS is inconsistent, the mods generally give you a warning that a DS will be incoming within the next 30 seconds though. Use it how you will.

[horaiyo]

It's not only your responsibility, the whm and the tank are responsible for mitigating ds as much as they can as well. Your job is obviously to make sure an adlo is on the tank for every ds, the whm or offtank's responsibility is to make sure that a stoneskin is on the tank for every ds, and the tank themselves should have a cd up for as many ds as possible. You should have at least three people with virus/eye, so set up a rotation so that one or both of those is on twin for each death sentence. As far as timing goes, you can either use something that lasts 30 seconds right after a death sentence and time the rest of the fight based on that, or you can download a twintania app that tells you when she can cast ds (keep in mind there's no way of knowing for sure when she'll cast it, she just has a chance to cast it 30 seconds after the previous one).

As far as aetherflow usage, I tend to reserve them just for lustrate. I usually find that even with maximum mitigation, there are times where the tank takes a huge amount of damage and I want to double lustrate them. At the very least, make sure you have one aetherflow available for each death sentence. As far as physick/adlo goes, I tend to stick to my usual 2:1 ratio most of the time.

[Lafiele]

What is the best way to go about making sure the tank doesn't die to death sentence or the following melee attack (I play scholar).

Currently I spread my virus and e4e on cd for seperate DSs, but our group hasn't really coordinated a rotation. When the actual death sentence occurs I try to time a adloquium(when is the best time to start casting adlo) or lustrate for as soon as it lands, but sometimes the tank dies even with full hp.

Does Galvanize need to be up on the tank for every incoming death sentence assuming they are at full hp? Should I be using adloquium as my go to spell instead of physick even during downtime to keep shield up as much as possible?Should I be using my stacks on soil or save them all for lustrate?

Any sort of help would be appreciated, thanks.

Aldo before a DS, get used t o lustrating immediately after a DS. If you do it right, the damage taken and heal should happen at the same time. This prevents him getting finished off with a follow up auto attack or plummet. That is all there is to it tbh, if your tank isn't mitigating properly there is nothing else you can do. One thing that can also help is your OT who should be a paladin, cast stoneskin on every DS to help mitigate even more.

Depending what tactic you use and phase , the WHM may have no time to cast SS on every DS since he has to manage the party HP so it's best if the OT does the SS during conf. etc.

[Taika]

Our groups aim to have Adlo (SCH), Sacred Soil (SCH) and Stoneskin (OT or MT) up for every Death Sentence. WHM should cast regen just before DS (so that it'll have full effect despite of debuff) and time Cure 2 on tank so that it heals for full effect. In addition to these use Virus for DS whenever possible and rotate Eye for an Eye on tank (from both healers and BLM/SMN).

[BunnyChain]

She does a Death Sentence after every 2nd Plummet. Adloquium should always be up before it hits. Lustrate immediately after Death Sentence cause it doesn't care about debuffs. Since Death Sentence is about every 30 seconds you have 1 Aetherflow left for Sacred Soil, I use it when there's no Conflagration up and a Fireball is incoming.

[Kyomih]

As mentioned:
Make sure the tank is full health and then get adlo up once the timer is due again (you can make a in game macro or you can use Sacred Soil to time the 30 seconds for DS). I personally don't Soil, though.
Once at 30 seconds the DS is due soon so that's a good time to Adlo, then while I see the DS being cast I cast adlo again so it hits the tank right after the DS hit hits. That will help with plummets which can be right after (and crit). Then Lustrate immediately. If your WHM buddy is doing his/her job the tank should be fine.

I don't even Virus any more and we never had the tank die to a DS or follow up plummet.

Really important for the tank(s) to also use their CD and mitigation skills. They can even stoneskin themselves if the WHM doesn't want to do it/doesn't have time/or whatever.

I hardly ever cast Adlo during non DS times (divebomb phase is a bit different) - so physic macroed with embrace should be enough. As mentioned I like to keep Stacks for Lustrate since it dodges the Infirmary healing debuff. Sacred Soil for Snake phase and once Twin comes back after. Other than that I am exclusively using lustrate (that's just me though. I am sure lots of scholars have other preferences).

To recap:
Cast Adlo before Deathsentence at around 30 secs
Cast Adlo while DS is being cast so it lands right after it hits
Cast Lustrate immediately after to get tank stable
Follow up with Physick/Embrace if needed

Rotate in Virus and E4E if needed and talk to OT or MT to rotate his Mitigation skills.

[UlricCraft]

(BunnyChain summarised nicely, so follow that advice!)
As a WHM I:

- Focus Target
- Cure I & Regen rotations
- Watch as Death Sentence starts casting
- Prepare Cure II
- Continue Cure I rotation
Like yourself, E4E and Virus are rotated for each DS, but I don't bother with Stoneskin or Galvanize.

During P2 debuff:
- Medica II (lazy healing HoT mode!)
- Regen
- Divine Seal & Cure I
- Save Virus and other healer E4E.

[Aurorarose51]

I cast my Adlo as soon as i see the plummet animation, which is easily noticable by twin rising up. My adlo will go off right after the plummet and be ready for the DS that comes after it. If you do adlo too early, the plummet will take it right off and you will have to cast it again.
There is this beautiful spot where you can cast a physik and it will hit the tank after the DS, and not be affected by infirmity. I focus target twin, and i start casting physik when Twin's cast bar reaches the 'D' of death sentence. I almost never have to use my lustrates (unless the DS happens to do a massive amount of damage still, I only need to use it once). And the rest of my aetherflows i save for cleric stance>energy drain on conflags.

[SeraviEdalborez]

There is this beautiful spot where you can cast a physik and it will hit the tank after the DS, and not be affected by infirmity. I focus target twin, and i start casting physik when Twin's cast bar reaches the 'D' of death sentence. I almost never have to use my lustrates (unless the DS happens to do a massive amount of damage still, I only need to use it once).

This is "prehealing", and it's an extremely useful skill. You want to time your heal so the moment of "HP healed, HP bar rises" occurs IMMEDIATELY after "HP damaged, HP bar drops". In the case of precasting Adloquium this won't apply for the hit itself if it wasn't already up, but will help protect against the following attacks so it helps stabilize.

You generally have 2 options for SCH:

If tank has at least Adlo up in advance, and HP is topped off or nearly topped off:
-Precast Adlo
-Lustrate immediately after

If your tank does not have Adlo up in advance, or their HP is not so good
-Lustrate if their HP is dangerously low
-Adlo
-"Precast" Lustrate immediately after DS hits

You might have to do the latter sometimes if you have to dodge a Twister, temporarily solo heal, or whatever. Prehealing does no good if the tank dies before the next heal goes off, so you have to make the decision on the fly. In the case of the latter, you tank should know "this is gonna hurt" and already pop a cooldown or something.