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  1. #11
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    Imapooonu's Avatar
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    Drain Bead
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    Mateus
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Ed_N_Ants View Post
    Personally if I were SE I would create my own gil buying website and ban anyone who tried to buy gil... If people would stop buying it then they would stop advertising it...
    Dear Lord. I don't know if the would be legal, but man what a great idea lol (if it's legal).

    I'm not sure if selling gil in game is legal or not either (considering they're advertising without consent). Selling in game gil is a violation of policy, not law. The only thing I've wondered about is advertising in game without consent. That IS civilly punishable through punitive damages I would believe. Whether or not it's worth any time I do not know.
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  2. #12
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    Sparky's Avatar
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    Resha Rayne
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    Cerberus
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Of course its legit. EVE Online has been doing it for years, and that more or less killed off any serious RMT activity.

    Ok, they don't actually sell in-game money directly per se, but the PLEX system allows you to convert time cards bought in stores for a multitude of purposes. They also allow purchase PLEX on the ingame markets, which can be backwards converted into game time too.

    From their own site:

    What is PLEX?

    PLEX
    PLEX is an in-game item that can be used to pay for your subscription without using more traditional payment methods. By using PLEX, you can pay for your game time simply by playing the game.

    You can buy PLEX through our Account Management site or you can buy PLEX with in-game ISK. Because PLEX is an in-game item you can also make in-game profit for yourself by buying and selling it on the market.
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  3. #13
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    Blissa's Avatar
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    Blissa Whitewolf
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    Leviathan
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    White Mage Lv 80
    He should report anyone that is suspect. Botters are destroying the economy for lidget gathers!
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  4. #14
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    Wulfyn's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Kuda Dela'mango
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    Behemoth
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    Lancer Lv 60
    Either way in the end it is up to us to report suspicious activity and SE encourages us to do so. It is up to them to decide if someone is innocent or not in the end.

    You can just sit there and not report someone who may be suspicious, that is your choice. Just do not whine about the prices of stuff or the flooding and under cutting of prices because that is probably happening at the moment.

    I have no doubt some of the under cutting is being done by gil farmers. The thing is all you will see is a retainer name, you will never know who the retainer belongs to. Only SE knows.

    The intent was to find out which option people were using to report such things, not for people to get butt hurt and flame. I tend to observe for a bit before I report or not. So troll on flame on.

    @ Marael : Sorry you get harassed by other players, I don't do that. It is not up to us to decide if someone is botting, that is SE's job. We only have the option to let them know if someone is suspect if we feel they may be. No different than someone reporting someone for harassment or being vulgar in chat if you wish.
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    Last edited by Wulfyn; 02-19-2014 at 02:15 PM.

  5. #15
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    Sparky's Avatar
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    Resha Rayne
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    Cerberus
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    I must admit I get harassed quite a lot too. But I reckon I have enough there to convince people I am a real person.

    Do I have relic mainhand?
    Of course

    Do I have AF gear, including melds?
    Only the hat, because my game plan is to craft them myself when I am able to - hence why I am gathering for hours!

    Do I run the same pattern over and over?
    Uhm, yes actually! Even with a movie on in the background, I settle 'in the zone', so to speak. I do tend to do dozens of circuits of the same nodes over and over.

    Will I respond to /tells?
    Depends how much of an a'hole is sending the /tell.

    I do tend to jump around a lot if there are other people around. Sometimes 5 times in a row, sometimes I deliberatey jump over rocks that a bot would get stuck behind. just little things to show I am human.
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  6. #16
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    Legend_'s Avatar
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    Legend Reborn
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    Faerie
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Ed_N_Ants View Post
    Personally if I were SE I would create my own gil buying website and ban anyone who tried to buy gil... If people would stop buying it then they would stop advertising it...
    That's entrapment!!
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  7. #17
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    Sparky's Avatar
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    Resha Rayne
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    Cerberus
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Nah, they wouldnt need to ban. So long as the do the same that EVE Online does, then it'll be kosher. Since the currency is already in the economy, SE could make a tidy profit from it.
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  8. #18
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    Lhei Fox
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    Phoenix
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    just simpel send /tell and ask simpel question, watch his patterns if he keeps do thing same over and over without a break in between then its no human.
    Ihave seen bot's run exackly same patterns by use sprint and jump but always jumping at exackly same spot.
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  9. #19
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    Sparky's Avatar
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    Resha Rayne
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    Cerberus
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Yeah some bots are able to perform a jump every 10 seconds or so, but unless they are able to do it completely at random, it does stick out like a sore thumb.
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  10. #20
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    MicahZerrshia's Avatar
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    Nadja Zielle
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 100
    Send them a /tell, RMT don't usually respond. Although I had one very obvious rmt with a name that look like they just pounded their head against the kb threaten to report me for harassment in very broken English just for saying hello lol
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