Suspicious Characters

[Wulfyn]

Exactly which option do we use to report characters suspected of being RMT? Do we use harassment or do we use cheating?

I have noticed they are still using Archers, this time around Lalafels. I am also noticing that one of them may atleast have level (or close to it) apropiate gear now, but no GC or FC affiliation. The usual odd letter names though it seems that some are having some thought put into the name.

I had reported a couple of miners via harassment a few days ago, but they are still mining (shards I believe). Why do I suspect them? No GC or FC, gear way below their levels, not using any actions, ie: wards etc, besides being at the same nodes seemingly 24/7.

I myself will no longer buy shards etc from the Market Board considering that the gil I spend may be ending up in GSer's pockets. Good thing I have all my gatherers capped.

[Noahlimits]

Exactly which option do we use to report characters suspected of being RMT? Do we use harassment or do we use cheating?

I have noticed they are still using Archers, this time around Lalafels. I am also noticing that one of them may atleast have level (or close to it) apropiate gear now, but no GC or FC affiliation. The usual odd letter names though it seems that some are having some thought put into the name.

If they aren't teleporting or doing other crazy stuff, you may have reported an innocent person. You shouldn't use the report tool as a paranoia device. I personally don't use a fc (I mainly use LS) and mine quite often. Sometimes I'm nude if I'm just farming crystals (due to me converting my HQ gear and not buying replacements yet). It makes me mad to think I'd be reported by people who are making assumptions.

[TrystWildkey]

When I still thought that SE cared, I used the option for Cheating.

Most bots will also run around in hq crafted gear to spiritbond it. I've seen a few that DO have a FC, but very few jobs, no AF, and the kicker was that though their names seemed real, their chocobos were named Asdad and Afsd.

[Gamemako]

Report as cheating. And yes, they all have no GC affiliation and generally have HQ crafted gear now churned out by crafting bots. They're evolving.

[cotti]

RMT actions such as those ARC clones parties, obvious teleporting gatherers and spam in general should go in Report Cheating.

But make sure and think twice so you don't report innocent people.

[Wulfyn]

Thus that is SE's job to determine if they are or not, as for FC ... that is tossed out the window because I just thought about how many players have no FC. Having no GC and maybe the exact same mage leveled to maybe 10 is suspect to me. Not using any action specially for a higher level gatherer ie: wards or even Kings Yield is suspect to me. I can go mine for a bit log off wake up and check MB then do a bit more mining, and guess what? They are still there at the same nodes day after day. I will observe awhile before I report. You shouldn't get mad about it as SE is giving us tools to essentially help them police the game.

[Noahlimits]

Thus that is SE's job to determine if they are or not.

This sounds like "I'LL REPORT ANYONE I FEEL IS THE LEAST BIT SUSPICIOUS REGARDLESS OF IF THEY'RE INNOCENT AND LET SE SORT THEM OUT".

That's extremely bad logic.

There are times where I'm focusing on something else like TV and simply click to mine, not really using any abilities (even though I'd likely get better results out of it). The fact that you're basing your reports on that and GC/FC is just sad. Thank god I'm not on your server.

[TrystWildkey]

This sounds like "I'LL REPORT ANYONE I FEEL IS THE LEAST BIT SUSPICIOUS REGARDLESS OF IF THEY'RE INNOCENT AND LET SE SORT THEM OUT".

That's extremely bad logic.

There are times where I'm focusing on something else like TV and simply click to mine, not really using any abilities (even though I'd likely get better results out of it). The fact that you're basing your reports on that and GC/FC is just sad. Thank god I'm not on your server.

It's not necessarily that he's saying he'll report everyone and everything. You have to admit, when you play the game for a while, you get a sense of when someone is a bot. Your brain recognizes that their movements are in a set pattern and don't deviate from that pattern. That's what sets off your instincts that you're seeing a bot.

The GC/FC and gear allow you to confirm that your suspicions may have merit, then you report. It really IS SE's job to determine if a bot is a bot. The fact that he's taking the extra time to check out GC/FC/Gear tells me that he's not just reporting anyone he wants to, but he's reporting those people that set off his instincts AND have other suspicious characteristics.

[Wulfyn]

Sounds like you are easily upsetted. Sounds like I will report anyone is a bit of rubbish. Lets face it, the way things were set up to counter RMT is not exactly working. I watch movies while gathering but still use actions to maximize my time spent. 1 DoL leveled and one mage leveled to 10 with no GC and being at the same nodes that only give out crystals, carbonized matter, and pigment.

Day after day with crap gear for your level, yea looks iffy to me. Being naked is one thing which I ignore. Being capped with no relic main hand (DoL) yea looks iffy to me. Ultimate decision as to if a character is RMT, looks like SE's job. You may never even know if you have been reported, unless you get suspended or banned. You could have members in your FC's or LS's that are cheating and not know it.

The new miner I am observing is capped at 50, has HQ gear but no relic pick? Come on.. No GC is one give away. I had never considered that some of them would be spirit bonding higher level HQ gears until now. Still no relic pick....

[Ed_N_Ants]

Personally if I were SE I would create my own gil buying website and ban anyone who tried to buy gil... If people would stop buying it then they would stop advertising it...