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    Those 'coins' are not actually gil though - those are actually Grand Company Seals (hence why each one is uniquely shaped, they each bare the face of each Company leader, and they also bear each Company's motto, such as the Gridania one clearly has written on it 'Woods Will be Done'.). There was a piece of artwork though that showed gold and silver coins on a table, amongst other things, but I can't find the pic at the moment sadly. In any event, we only have the coin icon from the game's interface to actually go on showing what gil actually looks like in Eorzea, as Moose already mentioned.
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    Do you have a source that explicitly says they're seals and not gil? The mottos and leaders images alone I don't personally think are enough to cement them as seals. The GCs have become so intertwined with the cities now that their mottos are practically the motto of the city-state itself. I can't seem to find the original page of where that pic came from, so I don't know offhand what text accompanied it. (Nvm, found it, see below) The text for commemorative coin, while separate (but perhaps related, only speculation there), does specifically say it's a gil piece and that the GCs were the ones to mint it, so they do have the administrative power to do so.

    Would be awesome though if you (or someone else) could find that other image you mention though, and any paired text would be a bonus.

    Found the text for my image of the GC themed coins:

    http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com...9fb72099b16dbf
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    Never blinking and all-seeing, The Mythril Eye misses naught that transpires within the lustrous domain of coin. In today's edition, senior editor Havak Alvak takes a close look at Foundation Day, the celebration taking place across the sultanate that commemorates the revival of the Grand Companies of Eorzea.

    The Founding of a Tradition

    Ever since the Ministry of Palatial Affairs revealed the rekindling of the Immortal Flames, the latter has not spared a single spherule of sweat to promote its presence to the public. Stepping up their efforts, the Immortal Flames now host Foundation Day, a celebration commemorating the creation of the Grand Companies of Eorzea more than a millennium past.

    According to our sources, the concept was conceived at a congregation of committee members for the Eorzean Alliance,* who recommended that the revelry be simultaneously sponsored by all three city-states. Contrived to curb the consternation of civilians while saturating soldiers with spirit and steadfastness, insiders indicate that the event is also intended to regulate the rivalry raging between the Grand Companies to attract adventurers to their ranks.

    Regulated roistering aside, the return of the Immortal Flames alone has been a blessing for the burg. Not only has it aided the amelioration of anxiety over the Garlean threat; it also affords adventurers—rapidly rising as the realm's richest spenders—a steady supply of salary. The prevailing perspective at present is one of expedited economic expansion. Even as I put pen to paper, a curious case of collaboration is being brokered between market and monarchy for the minting of memorial money and the subsidization of salutes by firearms.

    The current commercial climate is plainly propitious to profit. Whether you prefer to participate in a procession or peddle products to the public, we at The Mythril Eye enthusiastically encourage participation in the pomp and pageantry as a means of monitoring market movement.

    Havak Alvak


    [The Eorzean Alliance]

    A military alliance established in the 1561st year of the Sixth Astral Era in the wake of Ala Mhigo's fall to the Garlean Empire. Although initially formed of the four remaining sovereign city-states of Eorzea, the Ishgardians soon withdrew from the treaty, taking with them a bulk of the alliance's military might. In part due to this, no joint standing army ever eventuated from the coalition, which has had to rely upon the privately run Adventurers' Guild for the handling of such security issues as the beast tribe threat.

    With the reemergence of the Grand Companies, the demand for adventurers soars to a new high as each organization moves to entice capable soldiers to join its ranks.
    The bit I bolded sounds like it has more to do with general economy (gil) than anything GC specific, and that's where the image appears. Still far from conclusive though, I admit. I'd just personally lean to them more likely being gil than seals.

    I'll note I'm not trying to say ALL gil would carry those 3 designs since they'd clearly be special runs, but that the symbol we see in game next to the gil we own is probably a generic one.
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    Those coins were KIs in 1.0 that you got for getting max rank in GC you traded them to a moblin for 20k seals

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...emorative-Coin <---- Forum link from 1.0 about this coins
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    Can you zoom in with enough detail to see the face of the "gil" we have to pick up, for those low-level quests in Ul'dah? Genevieve (?) in the Coliseum, and the little collecting trip for Hamon Holyfist? I never thought about it...
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    Who makes the gil? Not who's on it!

    To assume gil has a standardised form is naive.
    Currency has multiple values to assist in exchange of fluctuating price of different product.
    10p coin, 50p coin, £1 coin.
    However, currency does not typically share the same name, value and shape if it is produced from different economic backgrounds.

    Our coffers show gil. Not Limsa-gil, Ul-gil or Grid-gil.
    I'd say it's a safe bet to assume the images above are seals.

    We need to acknowledge that Final Fantasy as a franchise and fantasy RPG games in general have glaring issues with money.
    -You killed a cow-
    Obtained 10g!

    To say 'something drops gil, that means their heritage is valid source' is nonsense.
    If Garleans drop gil, we can't confirm they use gil because we can't trade anywhere with them.

    The only way to confirm is through utilising this currency in an established trading facility or shop!

    A more pressing question on my mind rather than 'Who is on the gil' is; which governing body do all city-states and alliances bow down to and reproduce their currency!
    You can't ascertain who might be on the gil without knowing which economy it originated from!


    Or they just came together and said:
    "Yo let's put a God on the coin and shake hands"

    My money is on Ul'Dah produces the coin, but the city-state leaders of old came together and agreed upon the value.

    As for who is on the coin?
    Female Hyur! :s
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    Quote Originally Posted by UlricCraft View Post
    A more pressing question on my mind rather than 'Who is on the gil' is; which governing body do all city-states and alliances bow down to and reproduce their currency!
    You can't ascertain who might be on the gil without knowing which economy it originated from!
    This was my point of having mentioned Euros in earlier posts. Why must there be a single mint, produced only by one country? The countries of the Euro Zone have all agreed to share the same currency, but each country still mints their own version of the coin (well, the obverse side is standardized, but they have freedom to customize the design of the reverse side). It's completely plausible for all 3 Eorzean city states to have their own mints while having those coins honored as valid currency in the other cities as part of a single gil standard.
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    Give us a bank!

    Quote Originally Posted by Myranda View Post
    (well, the obverse side is standardized, but they have freedom to customize the design of the reverse side). It's completely plausible for all 3 Eorzean city states to have their own mints while having those coins honored as valid currency in the other cities as part of a single gil standard.
    Oh I agree! That's totally plausible!
    I however wouldn't bet on that being the case.

    My reasoning is that our symbol as an adventurer, regardless of starting city-state or grand company, the icon remains the same.
    There's no leading evidence to say that they're individual, but there's no real evidence saying otherwise...
    Disappointing.

    Interesting side note nonetheless!

    My gut feeling is that we're not going to get any concise information on this subject until SE release a 'bank' of sorts into the game. And hell, with enough people complaining about inventory space, I wouldn't imagine we're going to have to wait long!
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    Those coins are not seals. Seals are paper. If you played 1.0 and got a Writ of Passage from the CE, that's the same thing as GC seals. Look at the seal icon and look at the writ. Same design.

    Seals are made of paper, gil is made of metal. Those coins are the commemorative coin that you got in 1.0 when it was shutting down. It was worth like...40k seals or something. It was given to us by SE so we could get max rank in the GC before 1.0 went down.
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    Interesting etymology of Raubahn's name, although it's generally accepted his name in FFXIV is actually a reference to the Captain of the Immortal Lions of the same name in the Empire of Aht Urhgan in FFXI. But it's entirely possible the name originally came from that source as you stated Wadoka. That's really interesting. Thanks for that bit of info!
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    Aaaaannnd now I just had a mental image of Lahabrea walking into a store called Bodies R Us and trying on different humans.... >.<

    Lahabrea: hn too tall... tooo short.... Juuuuuust right.
    Venat was right.

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