How viable is a coil group with 2 SMN, 1 BRD, 1 DRG?

[Nichigo]

I ask cuz we potentially have this setup available to us. My main concern is that the 2 SMN setup won't have the burst damage needed for things such as Conflag and Titan EX Gaols.

Does anyone have first hand experience with this? Please keep the comments constructive. Theory crafting's great, but would prefer first hand input. If there are specific strats that would have to be adjusted to maximize group DPS, please share those as well

THanks in advance!

PS: The other jobs in the group are PLD, WAR, 2WHM. Not sure if that helps with the assessment.

[NintenPyjak64]

With 2 smn and 2 whm, you'll have difficulty building the LB bar at certain times. Other then that I see the only real difficulty will be T4 as you might not have the AoE for it. As for conflags, you have enough burst if the Smns know what they're doing

[Vodomir]

I don't see any issues with that setup. SMN DPS is more than good enough if your SMNs know their game ... there are even ways for SMNs to DPS conflag while being trapped inside.

Other then that I see the only real difficulty will be T4 as you might not have the AoE for it.

That's not an issue at all as there's no need for AoE DPS at all (apart from the initial bugs in phase 1, which are not hard to kill at all, even with subpar AoE), depending on your strat. That said SMNs do extraordinary well in Turn 4.

[NintenPyjak64]

I don't see any issues with that setup. SMN DPS is more than good enough if your SMNs know their game ... there are even ways for SMNs to DPS conflag while being trapped inside.



That's not an issue at all as there's no need for AoE DPS at all (apart from the initial bugs in phase 1, which are not hard to kill at all, even with subpar AoE), depending on your strat. That said SMNs do extraordinary well in Turn 4.

That's good to hear. Now I'm depressed that my smn won't be coil ready until 2.2

[Nichigo]

Thanks for the input guys. Glad to hear it's workable

[PArcher]

I don't see any issues with that set up.

As long as the SMN manage to Bane different bugs, there should be no issues with AoE in T4.

[Pesmergia]

It's definitely workable. But lacks in AoE due to no BLM. Bane DoTs only hit 3 targets.

[Remn]

on T4 phase 4 have your BRD plan TP song so DRG and BRD can spam AOE, that + bane should be fine. for T5 make sure whoever got conflag stay right under twin so SMN can bane the Conflag

[Grotesque]

The only showstopper will be 2xWHM in Turn 5, that is pure pain in the ass. Get one of your WHMs ready to switch on SCH. It is also helpful for other Turns. Apart from that your setup is viable to do anything, but you must know how to play ofc

[Vodomir]

As long as the SMN manage to Bane different bugs, there should be no issues with AoE in T4.

But lacks in AoE due to no BLM. Bane DoTs only hit 3 targets.

on T4 phase 4 have your BRD plan TP song so DRG and BRD can spam AOE, that + bane should be fine.

Why do so many people insist on AoE as being somewhat necessary for T4? We one-shot T4 every week (clearly before the enrage) and we don't AoE at all. Phase 4 is perfectly doable without any AoE, it's all just a matter of your strat.