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  1. #61
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    Lemon8or's Avatar
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    Lemon Nate
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    Leviathan
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    MrDiezel, I have dps it plenty of times as monk and honestly, it's not a big problem. You don't Shoulder Tackle hoping not to get hit by Wicked Wheel. You should know when it hits to Shoulder Tackle over right after. In tornado phase, this is about 5 seconds after Garuda's Slipstream. Set her on focus target and you'll be fine. If your BLM needs your help with plumes, they're doing it wrong. Just stack up, have the OT pulls spiny away and Flare. I'm only i66 on BLM but my Flare almost killed all the plumes in eye phase yesterday (can't remember since Bard was doing AOE as well). You know, you can walk between tornadoes and never get hit right? There's also a periodical pulse of positional check so you can walk right through the center of them if you hear it just goes off. I enjoy the difficulty greatly, was kinda bored doing it on BLM yesterday.
    As for maintaining GL3, you don't need to get it up right away in the eye phase. For tornado phase use this opener on Chirada/Suparna whichever one you're on:
    ToD -> PB -> Demo -> B4B -> SP -> IR -> SP -> TwS -> DK -> BS -> TS -> etc
    PB has a 3 minute CD timer so it might not be up every other tornado phase.
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    Last edited by Lemon8or; 02-25-2014 at 12:18 AM.

  2. #62
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    Neo Anderson
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    Sargatanas
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Op is correct. Not like other game, This game hate melee. Anyone here against you is trolling. If you play a melee, you looking for some challenge in this game. I have beat T5 as melee, as tank, as healer. What I can tell is melee DPS won't have good quality of live in this game. Most time you won't find a group need you. Drop melee DPS and play others will be best for you since you are still new to the game.
    Brd is the easiest job to play.
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  3. #63
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    Alkimi Asura
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    Ragnarok
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by neoreturn View Post
    Brd is the easiest job to play.
    It's also does less damage than all the other dps jobs, and lower than mnk/drg by quite a margin. Good parties never use more than 1 brd for anything, crappy party finder parties want all ranged because they only know 1 single way to kill anything (which they usually fail at anyway), Garuda Ex being the classic example.

    It also doesn't help that 90% of MNKs and DRGs have no clue how to play their jobs effectively, I've seen a near full i90 DRG in CT using nothing but Full Thrust (not even on combo) over and over.
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  4. #64
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    Eversongs Neuphora
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    only full thrust.... thats interesting maybe he liked the animation a lot lol
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  5. #65
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    Alcyon Eldara
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    Moogle
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by neoreturn View Post
    Op is correct. Not like other game, This game hate melee. Anyone here against you is trolling. If you play a melee, you looking for some challenge in this game. I have beat T5 as melee, as tank, as healer. What I can tell is melee DPS won't have good quality of live in this game. Most time you won't find a group need you. Drop melee DPS and play others will be best for you since you are still new to the game.
    Brd is the easiest job to play.
    Funny. I played a LOT of game where melee had the same DPS of any ranged and you still had to avoid shit all the time. Try T5 with 4 bards (2 tanks strategy) : not impossible, but it will be fun. T5 is typically a fight where melees can shine, they don't have to dodge a gazillon AOE's and most of the time Twintania doesn't even move. Keeping a good DPS against Titan EX as a BLM is a harder than keeping GL3 as a MNK. What did you expect ? A cakewalk as a melee + 3 times more DPs than a ranged ?
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  6. #66
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    Bardo Phor
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    Sargatanas
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    Archer Lv 70
    If this game "isn't for melee" as the OP suggests, then ALL progression groups would be running with all ranged DPS.
    That's not happening, so the OP is wrong.
    Plain and simple.

    Melee have strengths and weaknesses, just like EVERY other class.
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  7. #67
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    chumsy's Avatar
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    Hennessy Cognac
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    Malboro
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Each dps class has its own strength.
    SMN able to dot multiple things
    BLM king of AOE burst
    MNK/DRG powerful single target
    BRD very mobile and has a lot of utility

    Melee dps are by far the highest dps on single target, ive been in parties with 2 MNK on Titan ex, and they could destroy heart phase before circle bombs! Never happens without 2 melee dps. (that is without LB)
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  8. #68
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    Adun Blackblade
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    Balmung
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    This thread is full of BS. Enough of internet for today..
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  9. #69
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    Vayne Kaonis
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    Adamantoise
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    Armorer Lv 70
    It's pretty much the problem with all modern MMO's, they make these big elaborate fights, but don't stop to consider there will be people up close hitting the bosses. In the end you get fights heavily skewed to stacking ranged over bringing any number of melee.

    This game is still a little more friendly to melee compared to say SWTOR was, but still not a whole lot better.
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  10. #70
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    Y'mato Nunh
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    Gilgamesh
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    Arcanist Lv 60

    I don't understand....

    Was going to reply with something complex and elaborate but I just realized it would be a waste of my time on this post.....
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