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Thread: PvP is not fun.

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    You ask for many things to be more like WoW, in a game that is completely unlike WoW. Things in this game last much longer because cast times & GCDs are much longer. Cooldowns & crowd control effects are longer. Actions don't take effect until the animation / travel time of the projectile. There is no "interrupt" action in this game, because things get interrupted on damage vs WoW where everyone has a 6-8 second interrupt ability. I feel like you aren't looking for a way to improve things here, but to have it be WoW.

    Also - yes, I'm taking what you said and making it fit my own argument, because I don't want to play WoW.
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    i like pvp i just want more 4v4's rather than 3v3's and pugging a bot tank
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    If anything Sprint should not deplete TP being a universal action. This way melee can stay mobile and keep up with targets that have no use for their TP (casters). Give it a longer cooldown should this happen, but outright removal should never be seen as an option.

    There will never be "intelligent" interrupts in a game with netcode as loose as this. When I used Kick on my Rogue I had confidence that it would interrupt a spellcast. When I use low delay abilities like Fast Blade or Fracture I can never be sure it will interrupt a cast, even when the bar is at 50%~. That kind of uncertainty just kills everything this system has going for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucenia View Post
    Also - yes, I'm taking what you said and making it fit my own argument, because I don't want to play WoW.
    I don't want to play WoW either, but being unbiased, I can admit that WoW has superior PvP.
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    Last edited by Amused; 03-03-2014 at 05:28 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amused View Post
    They should have just copied the way PvP works in WoW. It just feels right compared to this clunky system we currently have in place.
    No, no, no, no...
    no no no no no no no no no no no no
    NO NO NO... NO
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pentara View Post
    No, no, no, no...
    no no no no no no no no no no no no
    NO NO NO... NO
    Why? Can you give me a good reason?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amused View Post
    Why? Can you give me a good reason?
    Quote Originally Posted by Lucenia View Post
    You ask for many things to be more like WoW, in a game that is completely unlike WoW. Things in this game last much longer because cast times & GCDs are much longer. Cooldowns & crowd control effects are longer. Actions don't take effect until the animation / travel time of the projectile. There is no "interrupt" action in this game, because things get interrupted on damage vs WoW where everyone has a 6-8 second interrupt ability..
    In its own right, this game has valid skillcaps, just not the ones you're hoping for because I don't think latency/server infrastructure will ever change
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    I have only done two PvP fights but it just seems like mass choas to me so far. I am going to keep going with it to try and refine my play and get better but it really doesn't last very lone.
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    PvP can be very rewarding! I find the community to be very fun and friendly. I joined some linkshells recently, and we get along very well, and everyone is polite to each other, it feels like a cool group. Even without the linkshells, battling my way up to lv 30 I had a blast with the overall community even with random players. The fun thing is the same people tend to play over and over, unlike PvE elements, you'll get to know each other playing PvP for so long if you choose to give it a serious go. Honestly, it is my favorite thing to do in this game even though it is heavily centered around PvE. Aside from some criticism you may encounter while playing, you will find it can be very fun and challenging as players don't always have the same routines the PvE element has, and thus, always offers some challenge. the fights can last very long too, until limit breaks are needed, those are great. And don't let losing at the beginning get you down, you learn as you lose, there's no way to win against someone who has been through the 1000 plus matches to get top rank. You learn a lot on the way and it feels very rewarding when you reach the top, at least it felt that way for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amused View Post
    Why? Can you give me a good reason?
    because if i wanted to play wow i'd be playing wow
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