It is what it is... The simple truth

[Thebob89]

I have read and read and read some more. Every line, every post, every argument and it all seems to boil down to the same simple statemen. "SE please fix the economy" but all in all there is a simple point that everyone seems to be missing, ( if this dosent apply to you then I apologize) SE has no controle of the economy, they CAN NOT fix it. No matter what they emplemented it all boils down to the ones who controle the economic flow are the players. Shure SE can put in taxes, fees, and what ever other sinks yo can think of but it's still the players screwing themselves. The ones with an abundance of cash will still be crashing the market, the ones with out still struggling to make a buck, and the stupid who just spam cheep crap to take up space.

If you want to fix the economy start looking for ways to do it yourself...

[Sparky]

I'm going to fix one thing from your post which would make it a little more accurate.

The ones with an abundance of cash will still be crashing the market

The ones with less cash will still be crashing the market.

Why? Because people with less cash want cheaper prices. This means that people cant sell higher, and in turn, makes selling items less viable. It's a vicious circle, meaning people can't make money, therefore they are unable to spend it.

But you can't force people to want to pay more, so really IDK what can be done about it.

[Thebob89]

The reason I say its people with money crashing the market is because they have little to no value of the currency. They are willing to cut their prices to nothing just to keep other people from making a profit in the hopes of knocking them out of the market. While it is true that consumers with little money can't buy, people with with little money can not produce goods to sell. If they can't sell they get desperate, and in that desperation either under cut to major extremes or seek another route of sell.

[elreed]

They need to add crafted gear to the game, if you want to be a better healer/dps/tank you need better gear, right now they are giving us gear dropped in dungeons, if they changed the loot from dungeons to crafting mats instead of complete pieces of gear, you would need more mats to complete the piece of gear you want, then add that you can put some materia to the piece of gear, you would need materias to improve your gear stats, that would give a lot more of activity to the market, they need to start with that and improve the bonuses that the materia can give to the gear right now the bonus is very low, making the system obsolete.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

Only the vey top tier gear should be crafted. Having most gear being only obtainable through crafting will create monopolies and only players who have the gil could afford it

[Sparky]

True, having all the best gear obtainable through crafting would make the game a little too much like real life...

[Thebob89]

Only the vey top tier gear should be crafted. Having most gear being only obtainable through crafting will create monopolies and only players who have the gil could afford it

That would really just be a patch for the major issue here. See with the current set up once the end game players have that equipment why would they bother farming for more. If anything making equipment breakable would do far more for the demand of materials. Of course give the equipment duribility, make them reparable, but for each repare cut the total duribility by half. That would cause a constant need for new equipment which in turn causing the need for a flow of currency and materals. As it stands right now there isn't a need for currency to obtain or re obtain end game items in turn removing the need for crafters. The only profitable selling points at the moment are materials for craftng and the few items needed for trade craft leves(sp) which also proc my seconed point the target of economic repair. If the leve items were regulated more adamantly by players the increase in the flow of funds would only bost the economy even if just slightly and would be at the least a step in the right direction.

[Feilina]

[...]SE has no controle of the economy, they CAN NOT fix it.[...]

SE IS in control of the economy! They can adjust drop rates, they create items and they created/designed the market. As long as they adjust the item drop rates by adding a 9-times-drop which former was a single drop, the will shutter the ground they built.

To be clear.
My oppinion is that the econimy is still good, decreasing but good. The only thing missing is demand! Crafters have nearly no demand so do gatherers.

Radical changes: (short term)
- Kill materia system as it is
- insert iLvl 90 gear craftable with other stat mixtures
- lower the HQ rate to around 50-75% with all X-skills available

Changes (long term):
- materia system as it has been in 1.x
- dungeon drops rare/ultra rare
- dungeon chests have optional loot, (good green stuff but not BiS)

Consider rare materials drop in dungeons or from NM's. We have a incapacitation skill system somewhere in the cellar which could be dug out again.

[Thebob89]

Honestly the current system leaves little to no controle of the economic structure in the hands of the development team. While it is true that they have to power to influence various points in the system, the current structure is placed in the hands of the players. I beleave that it was designe with that intention, but... Most players are not interested in market manipulation. It is after all only a game, more people are interested in dungeon grinding as opposed to grinding for days on end to level trade classes.

Now, I'm not disputing the fact that SE can do things that would make the market more influential, they can't make people spend money without a grand over haul of the entire marketing system. Don't get me wrong tho, there are ways to make the current system more desirable, they to be quite honest would do more to piss off the majority of the target consumers than to actualy add substance to the game, or is there something I'm missing?

I feel like I should clear someting up here. When I said that SE could not fix the economy it was not ment as they lack the means to do so. It was ment that as a business they would suffer a Loss in income if they were to take many actions tword the stabilization of the market. While there are several plates that see the issues and see ways that could potentially relieve them, if SE were to take actions to appease thr small percent it would no doubt put more consumers off. They would risk losing more potential paying players by "fixing" the economy as opposed to the few who see need for change. No facts, just a simple observation.

[Velev]

Of course they can control the market with various methods if they really wanted to.

You seem to be forgetting the one simple golden rule in life.

The one with the gold MAKES the rules.

Simple.