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  1. #11
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    Seravi Edalborez
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    Det spec (picking crit where Det isn't available): http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/LTHH
    Det spec (picking speed where Det isn't available): http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/LTHI

    Doesn't really matter which you pick. Debating the merits of 26 speed vs 31 crit when all other slots are unchanging is pretty inconsequential.
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    Gabriel Dieudonne
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    To be honest, I hate the idea of mixing sets of gear when it comes to the head, body, hands, legs, and feet slots. That's why I didn't consider the Allagan boots of healing, even though I do agree that they are better for the stats. I'm also wondering if it's even okay for me to use the Ultima choker of healing, because it has more spell speed than anything at item level 90 in the same slot. Then again, people say item level is important, so...

    I also place value on the game's lore, so the fact the Allagan cane, a raid drop, is better than Thyrus Zenith annoys the hell out of me. I don't care how hard the Binding Coil of Bahamut is, the job's relic weapon should be the ultimate weapon choice no matter what. Otherwise, why bother getting it in the first place?

    I was also wondering about food. I read elsewhere on these forums that mulled tea is a popular choice, but looking at the stats food gives, I don't see why pineapple ponzecake or pineapple juice is overkill.
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  3. #13
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    ErnestoGiovanni's Avatar
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    Ceropio Malvae
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    Its not the item level that is important its the base stat upgrade you get with the ilevel that is important. The mnd effects your heals more than any current secondary stat numbers at this point, maybe with higher levels you will be able to debate a small item level (re: mnd) versus maintaining a stacked secondary stat for a major threshold.
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  4. #14
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    My prediction on weapons is this. Yeah Allagan weapon is better now...but I really think we are going to have "UPGRADES" for our Relics at some point...if not and they try to phase them out I am going to be really pissed off. I also hate gear sets that do not match...you look so friggin' stupid. I think I will try for Allagan drops but if I am really unlucky my favorite is the Classic Red & White AF+1 Gear. I really think they screwed up the weapon heirarchy by having the Primals now drop ilv90 weapons...what the heck is that all about...why do they need two different iLv90 weapons???? This should have been a different reward.
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  5. #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by Advocatus View Post
    I also place value on the game's lore, so the fact the Allagan cane, a raid drop, is better than Thyrus Zenith annoys the hell out of me. I don't care how hard the Binding Coil of Bahamut is, the job's relic weapon should be the ultimate weapon choice no matter what. Otherwise, why bother getting it in the first place?
    You have to get your relic weapon no matter what because it allows you to do higher lvl content. It's hard for a person with a weapon lower than i80 to down t4/5 and extreme primals. Further more, even if they do down it, chances are they're being carried by better geared players. Further more, most people just don't give a damn about the lore. The best weapon should drop from the hardest content. At this point in time, the hardest content is twintania. I can get a relic weapon in an hour if I have a party willing to one shot the whole thing with me. After that it's just a matter of running ct like a mindless drone for 2 weeks to zenith it. It's not hard at all and therefore not worthy of the title of best weapon in the game.
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  6. #16
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    Yoso Carrasco
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    Quote Originally Posted by Advocatus View Post
    I was also wondering about food. I read elsewhere on these forums that mulled tea is a popular choice, but looking at the stats food gives, I don't see why pineapple ponzecake or pineapple juice is overkill.
    It's not that pineapple ponzecake is overkill. It's the fact that I am pretty sure it is literally impossible to get the stats needed to make it better than the next-best food. The % boosts on ponzecake are very very low meaning you are getting less stats than the lower tier foods even though it has a better cap.

    For example, Pineapple Ponzecake will probably give you 8-10 VIT because its % boost is so low despite having a higher cap at 15, whereas the lesser tier of food caps at 12 or so but you can easily reach it as the % boost is higher.
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  7. #17
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    Gabriel Dieudonne
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    Yeah, all of your posts make sense to me, even if some of the points made do sting a bit. That being said, this is a role-playing game. People should "give a damn" about the lore. At least half the work put into making this game is lore.
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  8. #18
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    Allagan weapons pre-date most if not all of the relic weapons lore-wise though. It stands to be believed that the allagans could make stuff that was that strong considering they made the Crystal Tower and the Binding Coil.

    The Binding Coil and the Allagan have a hell of a lot to do with the overarching storyline in several parts of the game so it's not like the gear from Coil has no significance.
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    Last edited by Estellios; 02-17-2014 at 06:28 AM.

  9. #19
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    Nyaanyaa Mewmew
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    Quote Originally Posted by Advocatus View Post
    Yeah, all of your posts make sense to me, even if some of the points made do sting a bit. That being said, this is a role-playing game. People should "give a damn" about the lore. At least half the work put into making this game is lore.
    I think you misunderstand something here. It's fundamentally a game with many aspects, one of which is the lore. There are people who care about it and enjoy it; and there are people who don't care about it, but enjoy something else—neither of them is right or wrong, it is simply what they prefer and enjoy. No one *chooses* to enjoy one thing more than the other—it is simply who they are. People—and therefore players—are different; and yet, fundamentally, we all enjoy the same game.
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  10. #20
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    I suppose...
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