Terrible Payment System

[Chocobits]

like RMT and BOTs, SE has to investigate C&B before they act, you cant just act on somthing before really looking into it.

Which would be all well and good if they had given us any indication that they were investigating allegations of fraudulent/questionable fees. Instead, they give us an updated Agreement that pretty much condones arbitrary charges against us by any Tom and Harry involved.

The rage against CnB isn't solely because people are wary of its reputation or the questionable transactions it performs against users. It's about SE offering CnB as 1 of 2 incredibly crappy options (or in the case of 1/4 of the free world, non-options where Crysta is unavailable). And SE doesn't need to investigate this company. The nation's leading banks have already done so and decided to preemptively block transactions from this company based on their history.

So the real solution for the time being is to move the focus away from CnB and demand more reasonable funding options that do not result in ludicrous fees/charges or sending photocopies of sensitive personal and financial information to a third party overseas.

Disregarding the fact that Square-Enix has blatantly slapped all non-Japanese citizens in the face by withdrawing direct payment options, we're still left without any reasonable or fair funding options. We have the money and we want to pay, but won't (or can't) with the system the way it is. To paraphrase Octaviane from an anti-CnB FFXI thread:

It's not our fault the bigwigs can't run a brothel in a red light district.

[Kailea_Nagisa]

I would have to agree, the focus should not be "OMG C&B SUXKOZ" it should be "SE please let us pay by other means"

.....and no Ultimate pay does not count.....

[Lerris]

I will not be keeping my FFXI subscription going with the billing change.
I will most likely not play this game once payment is required unless palatable payment options are presented. For example, PayPal, which works fine in NA for most businesses, but apparently not with SE.

I love the changes that are being made, and want to play the game once it is "finished", but I am finding the payment options to be terrible, and less user-friendly despite SE's claim that FFXI billing was being consolidated with SE accounts in order to make it more user-friendly.

[Chocobits]

I would have to agree, the focus should not be "OMG C&B SUXKOZ" it should be "SE please let us pay by other means"

.....and no Ultimate pay does not count.....

Wow, I agree with Kailea for once. This can only be a sign of the times.

Seriously though, now that we're mostly on the same page, my only nitpick is the word "please". I don't think it applies to the situation, as our only expectations as far as billing is concerned are that we can continue to make payments in a reasonable fashion, without jumping through extra hoops or being robbed blind.

Please is something reserved for someone making a request. I believe the playerbase has made it clear this is NOT a request. We EXPECT fair billing options, regardless of nationality or region.

[Eunys]

I would have to agree, the focus should not be "OMG C&B SUXKOZ" it should be "SE please let us pay by other means"

.....and no Ultimate pay does not count.....

A damn good post.

[Kailea_Nagisa]

mmm true, I just have always been the type to ask nicely no matter the situation ;p ....unless of course I am really really pissed off, and that honestly does not happen as much as it should.

[Lerris]

To be perfectly frank, I would be content with the ability to buy Crysta through the Playstation Store upon PS3 release. Since it is already required to purchase anything for PS3, most PS3 users will likely use such an option.

[Catapult]

To be perfectly frank, I would be content with the ability to buy Crysta through the Playstation Store upon PS3 release. Since it is already required to purchase anything for PS3, most PS3 users will likely use such an option.

If we could pay through the Playstation Store itself, that would also be an excellent option.

[Chocobits]

Post 300 - THIS IS MADNESS! Madness? And still no dev response!

[KaiKatzchen]

Post 300 - THIS IS MADNESS! Madness? And still no dev response!

I agree... either

1) there is nothing they can do about it at this time and don't want to tell us that

or

2) they are trying to figure out what they can do.

I think they know FFXI and FFXIV players aren't happy with the limited to no options people have been given. It would be nice just to see a Dev say 'yes we are working on this'. There is no doubt in my mind that a Dev has read this thread and staying silent is (obviously seeing some of these posts) just making people even more angry. With something this big (seeing it involves our money, security and information) and no one saying anything, not even a 'we know and we are looking into it', I feel like this thread is just being ignored.

I wouldn't even mind a 'no these are the only two options that we will have' so players KNOW and can move on, decide what they want to do and decide if they want to keep investing time into a game they might not be able to play due to the payment options... or lack thereof.