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  1. #1
    Player
    Rizon's Avatar
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    Rizon Cerberus
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    The commentator's observations and recommendations are spot on. Whether he care to admit it or not a lot of what he proposed are things that made FFXI highly successful. Unfortunately his proposals are something we will never see as long as SE (Yoshida) has this unhealthy obsession with combating the RMT threat. Everything he cited as drawbacks i.e. worthless crafting, lockout, caps etc. are attempts on SE's part to prevent RMTs from gaining a major foothold in the game. Yoshida-san has stated as much. Unfortunately this blind obsession is destroying the games potential. Things will not change til there is a change in philosophy at SE.
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    i dont even understand why he bothered to put crafting in the game. kill it. kill gil. theres your game ultimate game yoshida. since thats pretty much the direction hes going with.
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    Errors Phynrir
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    Excalibur
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    Yoshida, "1.8 million players around the world, 6.7 million characters created, over 400 million hours played"
    Source: http://www.polygon.com/2014/2/13/540...tart-for-naoki

    1 person represents 0.0000006%(rounding) of the population (doesn't matter if you are a die hard fan, hard core, casual, whiteknight, pessimist, optimist, etc..).
    5% would mean 90,000 people
    I'm not seeing 90,000 actively using these forums, otherwise they'd blow up.


    Lets just be a pessimist and say that only half of 1.8 million are active subscribers (which is low balling in any MMO estimates).
    90,0000 actives.
    1 person represent 0.000001%(rounding)
    5% would mean 4,500 people
    I can see 4,500 people actively using the forums at maybe peak times when the game is being patched for maintenance. If they were active users then you'd see a crap ton more topics, posts, replies each day.

    Folks need to understand when they say things like "most of us" and "majority" that they have no clue what they are talking about.
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    Last edited by Errors; 02-15-2014 at 12:31 AM.

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    Lafiel Brunestud
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    Excalibur
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    Quote Originally Posted by Errors View Post
    Lets just be a pessimist and say that only half of 1.8 million are active subscribers (which is low balling in any MMO estimates)
    They had +600K subs and servers were packed brim with people(new servers were added way before this announcement). Now servers are much emptier, so no, SE don't have 900K subs, not even 600K.

    Quote Originally Posted by Imapooonu View Post
    Ya know people can look at your profile right? Just say there's nothing YOU want to do. You wanna raid? Fine go raid. But don't say you've exhausted everything this game has to offer when you haven't.
    People going to exhaust content they find interesting and that is it, no more content for them. Are insisting they should be happy playing content they don't like? Don't be so full of yourself.

    Quote Originally Posted by Imapooonu View Post
    And there's plenty of mechanics that don't involve red circles.
    Which are...?
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    Last edited by Laf; 02-15-2014 at 01:08 AM.

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    Zahra Dubs
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    Coeurl
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    Honestly... the content locusts left months ago. The people leaving now are the players who took their time but had a good static that could actually beat each boss.

    This game requires almost no time once you've learned a fight. Almost all of endgame is literally just a small boss arena with a pretty skybox and a teleport directly to it. Coil 1-5 and all three primals takes about 90m or so once you've learned the fights. That not being a content locust... that is just no content. Even my dad, playing 6-10 hours per week is bored and has unsubbed. He got into coil a few times but he's said "Why bother going into coil, I have full i90 with the mix of allagan and mostly myth that I do have". He's right... what is the point? Unless you feel compelled to level every class and try to gear it in full i90 this game has a pitifully small amount of content. Not because of how much content they have developed but due to design choices that makes almost all of their content irrelevant and locks you out of the content that is relevant. It's just poor design decisions cause 'end-gamers' to quit.

    imo myth gear ruined the endgame, just knowing its going to be the same story for 2.2 as well. 2 months to get coil 6-9 on clear and leviathan will probably take a week or two.. even for our fairly casual static. Then its back to monday night farm and log... not worth $13 per month.
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    Eight's Avatar
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    Eight Corova
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    Sargatanas
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    Thaumaturge Lv 63
    They need to open this game up abit the lockouts are really starting to hurt bad. This last week even from tuesday night have been terrible for finding anyone to do coil and now today its like a ghost town on our server even checking PF there is like 2 things listed because all other content is done.

    If they have to have a lockout on stuff like coil I would rather them do the CT way and lock gear out to once a week but leave the place open. We have some statics but there are people who we rotate in but not everyone can get a chance each week its pretty ridiculous at this point. Some of us are even at T4 and T5 yet we need abit more gear and again no one can continue because everything is capped or locked out stopping everything in its tracks.
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    Jonny Tapas
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    Faerie
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    So many valid points... This topic has grown quite a bit overnight.

    However we spend a lot of time talking about other games, and repeating what's wrong. I'd hope to see this topic grow into a different direction. We should be telling SE what we want. If our opinions truly matter and we voice them in the direction we need to help them dev a game we love. Maybe just maybe they will get it done.

    In the video I mention, I'd like to see the game throttled in a different way. Removing caps and lockouts and rather having chests not be 100% to increase the longevity of content. I also mention adding rare craft items that craft into stuff that match gear being rewarded.

    How do you feel about these concepts? What other ideas do you have that would entertain us as we log in daily?
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  8. #8
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    Secare Miura
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Jonny_Tapas View Post
    We should be telling SE what we want.
    I think a lot of people have tried. I lurk the forums every day and I've seen lots of topics, well thought out, no "ERMGERHD DIZ GAME SUXS WOW CLONE", with nice suggestions and they either get NO response. Or a mod comes in says "After speaking with "x" team/ "x" person they have stated that there are no plans to change/fix "x" problem" I think maybe this game isn't for us and that this game is for new mmoers and super casuals. Not every mmo is for everyone :<
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    Last edited by Lumiin; 02-15-2014 at 02:11 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edenholt View Post
    …snip….
    Never said anything like that. All I said was don’t misrepresent your own statements. And I make plenty of gil on the market you’re doing it wrong.

    Quote Originally Posted by Laf View Post
    From persons perspective it is exactly the same. If wording upsets you, well it is your problem... world doesn't spin around you. Choosing not to do anything if only other choice is to do stuff you don't like, isn't being full of yourself.
    Never said any of this either. Just be honest and factual, that’s all I’m saying.

    However, if all else fails in your arguments, throw around personal insults…lulz.

    Quote Originally Posted by Laf View Post
    so none?
    That’s right, the entire game is one big red circle….smh.

    Post #71 did it right. Do it like that. I don’t agree with their sentiment, but it’s hard to fault them for being largely objective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Imapooonu View Post
    However, if all else fails in your arguments, throw around personal insults…lulz.
    and you will pretend that nothing happened or your post should have been interpreted differently? So what did you mean by your last post, enlighten me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Imapooonu View Post
    That’s right, the entire game is one big red circle….smh.
    What's up with trampling around? Can't you answer?
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