Current State of the Game

[Vigoram]

Yep.

You guys realize you're not even 10% of the game's current population right? As is stands now, if all the hoppers decided to leave, that would be 1.8 mil minus...ya...not very much.

BUT THERE'S MORE THAT'LL LEAVE TOO!

...and then of course many many more starting and/or coming back. This is a great game, has great potential, has great building blocks, and will be around for a looooooooooooooooooooooong time.

Live with it.

1.8 million =/= subscriber numbers. Continue to make up facts to prove your points.

[Imapooonu]

but here is the kicker, we don't have to. Most of us probably wont. You cant sit and make a broad generalization like that because quite honestly, you have no clue how many people feel the same way. If something isn't done to improve the longevity of the content, than no, it wont be around for a long time. As it stands SE cant even deliver content that lasts the 3 moths it takes to push out another content patch.

“Most of us….”

But here’s the kicker, people with this point of view are not “most of us”. They’re just not. This game has PLENTY of content to keep the casual-serious gamers occupied for a very long time. It DOES NOT have enough content to fulfill the insatiable appetite of the “mmo consumptionist”. No game does…anywhere…ever….in the world.

And yes, I’m pretty sure I have a clue that the vocal minority saying this game has nothing to do does NOT represent the sentiments of a majority of the player base.

This game will be added to, improved upon, and going strong for a long LONG time after this minority leaves. Happens every single time.

1.8 million =/= subscriber numbers. Continue to make up facts to prove your points.

Fine. 5%?

[Lumiin]

Yep.

You guys realize you're not even 10% of the game's current population right? As is stands now, if all the hoppers decided to leave, that would be 1.8 mil minus...ya...not very much.

Last time I check when they released ACTIVE SUBS numbers it was only around 600k and that was months ago. They do not have 1.8mil ACTIVE SUBS.

I agree with everything the guy in the video said :<

Ya know people can look at your profile right? Just say there's nothing YOU want to do. You wanna raid? Fine go raid. But don't say you've exhausted everything this game has to offer when you haven't.

And there's plenty of mechanics that don't involve red circles.

Why do people keep using this argument? And then will turn around and say "You shouldn't have done everything you play too much"

You don't have to do everything in a mmo! It's plenty of mmos where people only run dungeons and still have fun or only touch a little part of the game and they are still satisfied with the content because it's not watered down.

[Zanfire]

Quite frankly, the only reason the game hasn't seen a mass exodus yet is simple. How many major new MMORPGs have launched after ARR? The answer: zero. When Wildstar and EQN launch, you're going to see a massive nosedive in players. Even my FC has already decided to move back to GW2.

ESO (which i may play for a bit) EQN and Wildstar pretty much will see this game tank in subs. Even though most of them are going a very action style route, its at least something newish and 2 of those are giant brand names. People who think this will some florishing 10 year high sub MMo is out of their minds the way things are.

[Akiza]

Quite frankly, the only reason the game hasn't seen a mass exodus yet is simple. How many major new MMORPGs have launched after ARR? The answer: zero. When Wildstar and EQN launch, you're going to see a massive nosedive in players. Even my FC has already decided to move back to GW2.

ESO is garbage and will have to enter f2p purgatory after the 1st month. Wildstar looks interesting but since it's made by NC soft everyone knows it's subs will take a noise dive and EQN is Sony which is known for releasing MMO's full of game breaking bugs that never get addressed

[Artemed]

ESO is garbage and will have to enter f2p purgatory after the 1st month. Wildstar looks interesting but since it's made by NC soft everyone knows it's subs will take a noise dive and EQN is Sony which is known for releasing MMO's full of game breaking bugs that never get addressed

Are people seriously this ignorant? NCsoft is a publisher, which this might blow your mind, is not the same thing as a developer. That's like saying SE made Deus Ex: HR and the Tomb Raider reboot, when all they did was publish those games.

[zdub303]

Yeah it's really quite sad... If you have an ounce of skill this game has essentially no content.

My FC has even sold enough HM and EX Titan to buy a medium house. There is just nothing to do in this game.

Playing for an hour a week to do coil, knowing its another 6-8 weeks before we get new content and realizing that content will suffer the same issues in a month or two once we've downed it is so underwhelming.

I'm also tired of every boss fight in this game being a small arena with a pretty skybox. Where are the dungeons you could explore and feel like you were getting deeper and deeper into? Where is the old AQ or even hammerknell where it was a real raid dungeon. This whole, 4 arenas with teleports in between is so meh.

Here is to hoping ESO can do it better... If not maybe someone else can make a decent MMO.

[Dazd]

Anyone who says this game isn't a WoW clone is an idiot because that's exactly what it is, only with less polish. I played WoW for a little over a year and hated it because there was literally no end-game content outside of the raids and this is exactly the same only much easier. Final Fantasy is what got me started on video games when I was a kid and it's sad to see what it's become, this game might as well just be called FF13-Online because it's pretty much one linear corridor of a game with no exploration or adventure. There will never be a substantial amount of content in this game because it's all about vertical progression and limited stats on gear to keep things simple. You'll never have a FF11 style system with a large amount of content like Sky, Sea, Limbus, Dynamis, Salvage, Nyzul,...etc because there's no room or need for it. The only real end-game content this game will ever have will be the 1 or 2 main raids and recycled primals, the rest of what they put in will just be garbage content for people who can't/don't raid.

[ApolloGenX]

You don't have to be a content locust to run out of stuff to do in this game.

I logged in as a tank... sat in queue for 15 mins for King Moggly Mog (cause I like him)... and several other runs (including CT). Never popped.

That's when I realized- I am playing a lobby game... trying not to be bored by playing a job I'm not that thrilled with... and still groups are not popping, because people are all just doing PF stuff to cap and get back out of game. That's not fun... and there really wasn't anything I could think of that is fun to do while waiting- I have maxed crafts, but they are pointless... and I am locked out of CT loot and coil..

It's a beautiful boring game with very little to do.

/canceled.

[Mook_Mook]

You don't have to be a content locust to run out of stuff to do in this game.


That's when I realized- I am playing a lobby game...

/canceled.

This is really the main problem, you have 4 hubs in the game, 3 city states and revernants toll. YOu have this beautiful land scape and world that has little to no use out side of generic quests and fates. I know once my FC gets a house i have no reason to go anywhere, and if the ycan add rowena into my house it'd be even easier to never leave. End game doesn't have enough content, the casual play is boring, I still enjoy the game and log on multiple days a week but I find my self longing for 1.23 more and more maybe its just my nostalgia glasses who knows.
Ultimately there retention plan seems to be throw nostalgia mounts and minions at as and pray