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  1. #1
    Player
    Avatar de Jaxhammer
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    fvrier 2014
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    Character
    Jax Hammers
    World
    Moogle
    Main Class
    Maraudeur Lv 48

    Hard time choosing my DPSer.

    Hey!
    Well I started playing last week and so far love it.
    Started as a GLD and hated it, and only then I noticed that WARs are also tanks, so I fell in love with WAR :P

    Now I wanna start also a dpser role.
    At endgame content, who would you rather have in your party?
    BRD/BLM/SMN/MNK?
    I started both BRD and BLM and love them both equally, BLM for the awesome dmg, and BRD for just awesome everything.
    SMN and MNK didn't like that much although havent played past lvl 10 so... If anything I should know... :P

    And lastly, the DRG. I haven't tried him at all, is he any fun besides high and slow dps?
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  2. #2
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    Avatar de Asdamine
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    Character
    Lea Sahaquiel
    World
    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Maître d'hast Lv 50
    In reply to "At endgame content, who would you rather have in your party?" - Personally I prefer to have both the Bard and Monk. Reason are as follows...

    Bard provides more utility such as FR (increase party member's magical damage) and MB (increase mana regeneration) - consider Bard as a raid group sustainability class.

    Monk is, in my opinion, pure destruction. The amount of damage they burn on everything is crazy! It is more fun to play as well (only if you are a lala-monk).

    Blm does indeed have damage, a high tier damage dealer in that regard. However, I find the class quite boring, especially it is the only class I could make a macro of a chain attack for a fight into 2 buttons only.

    SMN is not for everyone because you have to constantly control and sustain your pet. As well as the use of DoTs does not appeal to anyone.

    I can't say anything about dragoons since I have yet to play it. But I can tell you that it is the least demanding class on my server (Phoenix). It is a class that is expendable and replaceable. But hey! don't let you down just because of my last statement, it is all about which class you like to play! You fell in love with WAR, and WAR you shall play! If you like dragoon, go for it! got it?
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    Dernière modification de Asdamine, 09/02/2014 à 07h32

  3. #3
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    Avatar de Korwin
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    octobre 2013
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    Ul'dah
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    Character
    Korwin Hunter
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Tanneur Lv 59
    Citation Envoyé par Asdamine Voir le message
    Blm does indeed have damage, a high tier damage dealer in that regard. However, I find the class quite boring, especially it is the only class I could make a macro of a chain attack for a fight into 2 buttons only.
    What is the macro? I'd like to use it. Thank you.
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  4. #4
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    Avatar de Asdamine
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    Lea Sahaquiel
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    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Maître d'hast Lv 50
    Citation Envoyé par Korwin Voir le message
    What is the macro? I'd like to use it. Thank you.
    /ac "Fire" <t>
    /wait 3 (x3/4/5/or whatever amount of MP you can use to cast)
    /ac "Transpose" <me>
    /wait 3
    /ac "Blizzard"<t>
    /wait 3 (x3/4/5/until you gain full mana)
    /ac "transpose" <me>
    /repeat....

    Since your macro only allows 15 lines to write, split fire and blizzard into two macros, thus - two buttons.
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  5. #5
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    Avatar de Allyrion
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    aot 2013
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    Character
    Allyrion Windwalker
    World
    Yojimbo
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 70
    Citation Envoyé par Asdamine Voir le message
    /ac "Fire" <t>
    /wait 3 (x3/4/5/or whatever amount of MP you can use to cast)
    /ac "Transpose" <me>
    /wait 3
    /ac "Blizzard"<t>
    /wait 3 (x3/4/5/until you gain full mana)
    /ac "transpose" <me>
    /repeat....

    Since your macro only allows 15 lines to write, split fire and blizzard into two macros, thus - two buttons.
    Any notion of macros go out the window once you get Firestarter + Thundercloud.
    At most, you can macro the UI phase and hope you never get a thundercloud during the transition.

    It's a boring class to level, but it's also pretty strong all the way through.
    Fire III and Blizzard III allow you to control your phases which makes the rotation a little bit more interesting.
    The procs make it a lot more interesting, but they're quite late.
    In general, the skill set is small but it does require proper timing and preparation to avoid interruption.

    At end-game, BLMs have some tricks up their sleeve to do more damage. They're a little less straight forward than, say, monks which managing multiple things is a constant but there's that much situational tricks to increase output.
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  6. #6
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    Avatar de Ooshima
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    novembre 2013
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Rui Ooshima
    World
    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Barde Lv 90
    Citation Envoyé par Asdamine Voir le message
    /ac "Fire" <t>
    /wait 3 (x3/4/5/or whatever amount of MP you can use to cast)
    /ac "Transpose" <me>
    /wait 3
    /ac "Blizzard"<t>
    /wait 3 (x3/4/5/until you gain full mana)
    /ac "transpose" <me>
    /repeat....

    Since your macro only allows 15 lines to write, split fire and blizzard into two macros, thus - two buttons.
    Assuming you are in a fight where you don't have to move at all, maybe.. if you want to forego procs.
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  7. #7
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    Avatar de NeoAmon
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    Character
    Sparda Amon
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Occultiste Lv 50
    Citation Envoyé par Asdamine Voir le message
    /ac "Fire" <t>
    /wait 3 (x3/4/5/or whatever amount of MP you can use to cast)
    /ac "Transpose" <me>
    /wait 3
    /ac "Blizzard"<t>
    /wait 3 (x3/4/5/until you gain full mana)
    /ac "transpose" <me>
    /repeat....

    Since your macro only allows 15 lines to write, split fire and blizzard into two macros, thus - two buttons.
    How to be terabad BLM, the guide.
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  8. #8
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    Avatar de Remn
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    Character
    Kizuna Astin
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Pugiliste Lv 50
    Citation Envoyé par Asdamine Voir le message
    /ac "Fire" <t>
    /wait 3 (x3/4/5/or whatever amount of MP you can use to cast)
    /ac "Transpose" <me>
    /wait 3
    /ac "Blizzard"<t>
    /wait 3 (x3/4/5/until you gain full mana)
    /ac "transpose" <me>
    /repeat....

    Since your macro only allows 15 lines to write, split fire and blizzard into two macros, thus - two buttons.
    you do know that your fire 1 cast time is 2.4ish (depend on speel speed) second right? using wait 3, you will cause .6 second wait time for each Fire spell.
    Last time I check , /wait in this game function with .5 sec incremental.
    you can use /wait 2.1 but the game will fire your macro at 2.5 second. if you do /wait 2.6 the game will fire it at 3.0 second. (not sure if that fix this yet). you lose a lot of DPS when you do it from macro.

    also i find BLM very fun to play. Their rotation is easy, but you have to be more tactical on where you stand to minimize your movement.
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    Dernière modification de Remn, 11/02/2014 à 04h50

  9. #9
    Player
    Avatar de Asdamine
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    septembre 2013
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    Character
    Lea Sahaquiel
    World
    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Maître d'hast Lv 50
    Citation Envoyé par Arlen Voir le message
    Please don't speak for everyone. I personally like DoTs. So, your statement is false.

    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...acter/4721241/

    Bard- LVL 0
    Monk- LVL 0
    BLM- LVL 0
    SMN- LVL 3 (Arcanist)

    GTHO
    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...acter/4696501/

    Really now, as if you know what I do with my ACCOUNT.

    Also, why are you taking offence to that statement? It was a compliment. You playing a summonor proves you are a rare breed, what's wrong with that?

    P.S. And when you say "personally", it really doesn't mixed well with "please don't speak for everyone". Just saying... it contradicts things.

    Citation Envoyé par Remn Voir le message
    snip
    Check again, it is count to the nearest whole number. Yoshida P stated specifically that it WAS possible in beta but he/SE limited system's capability to avoid abuse or too much "auto-play".

    Guys, what I said was in layman's term - For a newbie, who is new to the game, just starting, learning. Don't throw in rocket science numbers and shakespeare in a way that he/she wouldn't understand. Just generalise things, please.
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  10. #10
    Player Avatar de PArcher
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    novembre 2013
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Kytre Ashaer
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Guerrier Lv 70
    Citation Envoyé par Asdamine Voir le message
    SNIP
    If you're going to have a BRD for songs...you need a DRG

    Disembowel is a piercing debuff, and which two classes use piercing damage? BRD and DRG. A singing BRD needs Dis to offset some of the penalty MB has.

    Yes, you can use a MNK...but the damage MNK do is not a ton more than DRG (definitely not the BRD's 10% more) so having a BRD/DRG is more damage than MNK/BRD

    An ideal party with songs is honestly PLD, WAR, DRG, BRD, SMN, BLM, SCH, WHM. Without songs, its PLD, WAR, DRG, MNK, SMN, BLM, WHM, SCH. If you want pure damage, just stack 4 MNK and call it a day...but no one is going to do that

    The only time I see MNK preferred over DRG is T2, when they want a MNK to solo-silence the Turn, or in Titan when there is already a DRG present.

    And MNK and DRG both have the same survival rates; its all about personal skill rather than the class.
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